Kyshakk Koan Vicheron Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Didn't Erika make those mushrooms? I guess she neglected to tell the Avernites their expiration date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sss-Chah anyway, am i right in assuming that there's a reason for the famine, or is it just happening? The Blight is destroying the mushroom crops that provide the main food source for Avernum. There are several possible reasons for the cause of the Blight ranging from natural occurance to an evil plot by various likely suspects. So far after about a third of the game we don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 It will be refreshing to investigate not knowing the source. A3 was pretty damn obvious. The fact that I was told about Rentar before I got the game may contribute to my conception, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Blight is Linda's revenge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Mysterious Man Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I hope Linda chokes on a Dorito. Wait. Different Linda... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Untamed Banana Slug Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wouldn't it be awesome if the Vahnatai did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug fractalnavel Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 No - having a - william - shatner - moment ... Rrentaaaaaaar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: fractalnavel No - having a - william - shatner - moment ...Rrentaaaaaaar! She's dead, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Originally Posted By: Turtle Originally Posted By: fractalnavel No - having a - william - shatner - moment ...Rrentaaaaaaar! She's dead, Jim. And so? She can be always reanimated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Time travel fixes all things. —Alorael, who suspects that is the most elegant way to link Avernum and Geneforge. For some values of elegant, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 Originally Posted By: Falling Terminably into Defeat Time travel fixes all things. ?Alorael, who suspects that is the most elegant way to link Avernum and Geneforge. For some values of elegant, of course. Shhhhhh, you aren't supposed to reveal the ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Shhhhhh, you aren't supposed to reveal the ending. What ending? That Avernum travels past and meets Rentar et co again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Originally Posted By: Earth2025 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Shhhhhh, you aren't supposed to reveal the ending. What ending? That Avernum travels past and meets Rentar et co again? No, no, the Empire sends agents into the past to try to kill Rentar before she can strike them in the first place, thus allowing them to have won the war (at least in the new timeline they believe they are creating). But in fact they unwittingly set in motion a chain of events that causes the very outcome they are trying to prevent! Bet you didn't see that coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Qualicide Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 bold prediction: the big baddie is in northwest avernum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 bold prediction #2: the big baddie is protected by demons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 bold prediction #3: the big baddies demons were summoned by Rentar's son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Qualicide Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 now that's just crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Bold prediction #4 And maybe the big baddie will be difficult, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Emperor Bold prediction #4 And maybe the big baddie will be difficult, too! Only on torment difficulty. Jeff has tried to make required battles doable for the average user on normal. Jeff's problem is his beta testers are abnormal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 the bold predictions seem to have changed dramatically in character. the point of the first two is that they were actually true of every game set in exile/avernum proper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Click to reveal.. Dorikas wasn't guarded by demons, a few golems and magic orbs were the only magical creatures there (the goo and lizard not withstanding and mages, priests and druids not considered creatures). There was the regicide, but he wasn't mandatory (or did I miss something?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Avernum 5 isn't set in Avernum proper, though, like A1, A2, and A4 were. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Rentar-Ihrno resurrects Dorikas in order to spawn with him the demonic scions that will finally overthrow Avernum. For the win! Or else it's the Mushroom King, who finally had enough of his subjects being harvested and ground into meal that wasn't even edible, but still counted as enough of a foodstuff to fulfill several minor quests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 You know, a spontaneously sentient mushroom villain would fit with the Blight. Don't forget that the firstborn demonic scion of Rentar-Ihrno and Dorikas is named Lindja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 Jeff's used enough shamblers that having the vegetation fight back is plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 OOH! It's the return of the Swamp Folk from A Small Rebellion! <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk The Knight Who Said Ni Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Ugh the tiresome dealings with enemies that do nothing put poke and poison me. I thought the swampfolk in BOA looked cool but they might be need some photons for those chlorophyllic (not a word) arms. That would not be welcome. Now squashing Rentar aaaaannnnndddd Dorikas that's Indy-worthy Ni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Jeff's problem is his beta testers are abnormal. Tell me about it. I'm a more casual player myself, how does one get to become a beta tester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Actually I make an effort to bumble along casually when testing. I play on Normal with a default party with no special abilities, and don't try anything too fancy. If a fight takes trickery to win, I call it a balance problem. It's an immense and agonizing effort to restrain my towering tactical genius and play like a mere mortal. Only by constantly sucking back tequila shots can I manage to reduce my mad skillz to near-normal levels. But for the sake of Spiderweb Software I make even this sacrifice. It's a good thing Jeff pays for the tequila. Then later, once I know what's what, I try a torment singleton. So far — though that's not far at all — this is definitely doable in A6. But hard. As in A5, I advocate editing up Lores and even Tool Use to the sky when playing a singleton, because otherwise it's just too infuriating to be missing all the goodies after working so hard to survive and win. It's quite hard enough still this way. To join the few and the proud, just sign up by e-mail next time Jeff advertises on the Spiderweb page. He is always looking for more testers, since there's some turnover. It's fun but it can be frustrating, since Jeff's betas are generally pretty good, but sometimes you hit stuff that is seriously borked. You have to remember that you're not exactly just playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sleeping Dragon Tell me about it. I'm a more casual player myself, how does one get to become a beta tester? Apply now since Jeff just posted in Announcements that he's looking for Mac beta testers. I have absolutely no idea what he looks for in testers except he wants people that will finish the game. Since Apple released Snow Leopard, he is checking to see how the game runs on the new operating system, Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity I try a torment singleton. So far — though that's not far at all — this is definitely doable in A6. I tried it through the first few areas and it is doable but very boring plinking away at the monsters while conserving spell energy. I'm holding off until later in testing in case Jeff makes any more changes to the game after the new beta testers start complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug fractalnavel Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 For some ideas: Beta Testers: Getting Them. Keeping Them. -- Jeff Vogel, The Bottom Feeder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Sss-Chah Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 so the answer to my question is yes, awesome. and yeah, the emperor from avernum 1 wasn't in northwest avernum Click to reveal.. even though you had to go there to get to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 You had to go there to get to him. More importantly, though, Grah-Hoth actually *was* in NW Avernum, and is as much the big baddie of X1 as Hawthorne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Actually the torment singleton is getting a bit easier now, to the point where it actually is kind of fun. I think the difficulty level is about what it was in A5. But I'm still not very far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 My only concern is increasing intelligence enough to deal with the few specials that have terror area effects scripted into their attacks. Jeff makes those attacks alway occur even when the monster loses its other attacks. I suppose with careful playing you can postpone them until you have time to do it. Some of those area effect attacks are really bad on torment for my regular 4 character party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Yeah, I try to avoid these. I haven't been hit with too many AoE effects, because I hit and run a lot, and thus manage not to be in the area. I did get terrorized once, and survived. The monster was dying faster than I was at that point. On the other hand I'm going to be pumping Int quite a bit for the spells, anyway. But I'm hanging on to every mental defense item I find, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'll have to go back and try again after I finish catching up with my second party. I figured after a certain point when you can do more spellcasting things would get easier. Too bad the best items for a singleton are rewards for very hard quests. I'm waiting for the next beta because Jeff's suppose to fix an item that will make it easier for a singleton to get that great armor with the mind resistance effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Michael Anderson Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Originally Posted By: Sleeping Dragon Originally Posted By: Randomizer Jeff's problem is his beta testers are abnormal. Tell me about it. I'm a more casual player myself, how does one get to become a beta tester? One thing is for certain ... it IS NOT by posting private beta test information in the public forums ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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