Tenderfoot Thahd bargeral Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 How long after the Mac version does the Windows version usually take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Oh, a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan kuc Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Mac Beta Test call was Sept 23, this release is almost 2 months after that. Pc Beta Test hasnt been called yet. You cant really look for a release date when the large-scale testing hasnt even begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The Windows testing doesn't have to wait for the game to be completed and is less balance focused. It's also free of the egregious human error bugs and more prone to porting bugs. In theory, if all goes well, the Windows test could be very short. If all doesn't go well and there's some persistent bug, it could take... oh, a few months. —Alorael, who has contributed nothing by adding this post, has he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Nasarius Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I still don't understand why Jeff doesn't just use cross-platform libraries like SDL. He's not doing anything very complex with graphics or sound. It would reduce porting time to a week or two at the most. He writes everything for Mac and Windows, so you think he would plan ahead and code with cross-platform compatibility in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lattan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 It's been a while since he wrote a totally new engine--Geneforge was the beginning of his current one, and that was 3.5-4 years ago. He's not going to take that kind of trouble until he's ready to do another new engine, which could be a while. BoA's engine had its roots in Nethergate from a very very long time ago. Essentially he seems to like the game-writing much more than the coding, so he spends lots of time on the former and as little as possible on the latter. And porting may take more time, but that's time that's later rather than right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Kingy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Hopefully the A4 release date isnt near the Oblivion release date as unfortunitly A4 would be guarnteed a loss of a sale because I have barely any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Quote: Originally written by SNM:It's been a while since he wrote a totally new engine--Geneforge was the beginning of his current one, and that was 3.5-4 years ago. Except that A4 doesn't actually run off the GF engine — it just looks like it. Apparently 70% of the A4 engine is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lattan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Okay, well, the graphics engine is the same then. And if he was going to such great lengths why didn't he just give us a new one that looked a little more like Avernum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Because the Geneforge graphics are more cutting-edge, and as long as he was adapting the Geneforge engine he decided to keep as much as possible, which included the graphics. —Alorael, who isn't entirely convinced by that 70%. A4 is very clearly built on the Geneforge engine, and it was even more obvious during testing. Yes, there are large changes, maybe even 70% changes, but that 30% is a very important 30%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lattan Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I wasn't referring so much to the graphics as the keyboard shortcuts. Am I the only one who misses being able to target spells by hitting letter keys? Or being able to use a shortcut for every button on the screen. Or being able to use "look" which I think would still be nice to have; there have been a few times I missed stairs or whatever because they were mostly hidden behind walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd bargeral Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 Thanks for the answers everyone. Looking forward to the it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Dark Mage Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I thought that there it wasn't any windows testing, and that jeff just released every game after preparing it without needing a beta testing, but if there is, then i want to sign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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