Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I remember Moiraine using those kind of words before she vanished that it is possible to remove entire town from history if person who use balefire has also some artifact which allows person to wield more might than normally, when she used balefire on monster (trollock prolly) only few moments were erased but when Rand used it against some monster whose claws were poisonous or something like that those wounds it had done to Matt and damage it had done to door had vanished like they never existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Beginnings by Asimov. Looks kinda interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Click to reveal.. Narg I don't get why people had such a hard time with this. The answer was obvious from the moment it was set down on paper. Suppose for a moment that news doesn't travel instantaneously in Randland and that the blitz on Caemlyn happened mere hours before, who could and would possibly drop in to visit Rahvin at that point in time? Graendal. She was plotting with Rahvin, Sammael and Lanfear to take Rand down, though Lanfear's involvement may have simply been a means to take them down. Sammael was in Illian waiting for Rand, and Lanfear was dead. Not only that, but we know that they dropped in on each other while plotting, as Sammael did to Graendal. Nobody else had any reason to assume that Rand would be there or to visit Rahvin. In fact, if one were to deliberately be going after Asmodean (but for some reason ignoring Rand?), the obvious place would be the Sun Palace in Cairhein. Not finding him there, the Stone of Tear would be my next choice. In fact, we have a couple of her PoVs that state explicitly that she knew that Asmodean was dead. One of which, she even told to Shai'tan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 That is the general consensus, yes. But it's become such a big deal to the community that many people want to believe the answer is a little more interesting. I mean, it comes right after the showdown at the docks, and it's written so... mysteriously. If it's Graendal, it lacks any real plot significance, and that's hard to let go of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I preferred the minority view that it was Rhuarc without pants. I'm re-reading the WoT series very slowly now in anticipation of the last book coming out early next year. I don't think I ever realized the extent to which I started skimming after the first few pages, but I'm forcing myself to read word-for-word now, and it's remarkably different. The level of detail is astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 That, I think, is what I like about WoT. I've always been a sucker for world-building. —Alorael, who just picked up Mieville's Kraken. He's hoping it's a return to form, where "form" means early books, but he doesn't think Mieville does that. It's a violation of the man's ethics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: Kelandon I preferred the minority view that it was Rhuarc without pants. I admit, I await the next installment of Isam's summary almost as much as A Memory of Light. Okay, that's overstatement, but you get the point. The scope is where Jordan gets me, too, though I originally picked it up for sheer volume. Just finished a re-read of Sherlock Holmes, precipitated by an earlier encounter with "Sherlock Holmes was Wrong", an interesting piece I would recommend to those with a French sense of humour. I am currently working on "On the Road". It doesn't captivate me the way it seems to have effected that generation, but that is probably to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Radix Malorum Est Cupiditas Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 It is she. Supposedly Brandon Sanderson confimed it. I can't provide sources, but it's up on tvtropes.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Originally Posted By: meekness leaving the body That, I think, is what I like about WoT. I've always been a sucker for world-building. If you're a big fan of world-building, it's a bit of a surprise that you aren't a fan of A Song of Ice and Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Ice and Fire has a host of well defined characters, but I think Wheel of Time has the upper hand with pure depth of world (lands, peoples, customs, what have you). Neither of them, of course, are Arda, but then... nothing else is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Eh, aSoIaF has a pretty well defined world as well, although it has fewer central locations than aWoT does. Whether or not someone likes one series more than the other is probably due to other reasons. Quote: It is she. Supposedly Brandon Sanderson confimed it. I can't provide sources, but it's up on tvtropes.com. Click to reveal.. I haven't read Book Thirteen yet, but I hear that Graendal is finally, explicitly confirmed as Asmodean's killer. There's this well known essay (written from Sherlock Holmes's point of view) that basically states everything Randomizer said. When they were going through RJ's papers after he died, they found a copy with the annotation "THIS IS RIGHT". Quote: I'm re-reading the WoT series very slowly now in anticipation of the last book coming out early next year. I don't think I ever realized the extent to which I started skimming after the first few pages, but I'm forcing myself to read word-for-word now, and it's remarkably different. The level of detail is astonishing. Yeeeeep. I've been making a point not to skip ahead either. The only times I allow myself to do so is the dress porn sequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Westeros strikes me as a well-realized, gritty, medieval Europe equivalent. It's detailed, but it's not highly imaginative. I also don't get the sense of history that, say, R. Scott Bakker produces, but even compared to WoT there seems to be much greater stasis. There aren't innovations, there aren't a whole lot of ancient famous people, and nations rarely rise or fall. But no, that's not really what I object to. —Alorael, whose complaint was and is that he doesn't like or care about the characters or their politics. There isn't much of an overarching plot to tie it all together, and he doesn't find the machinations themselves compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan It is she. Supposedly Brandon Sanderson confimed it. I can't provide sources, but it's up on tvtropes.com. Click to reveal.. I haven't read Book Thirteen yet, but I hear that Graendal is finally, explicitly confirmed as Asmodean's killer. Click to reveal.. It's confirmed very indirectly in the text — it mentions that she's responsible for the deaths of three Forsaken, and we know of two at that point other than Asmodean — and confirmed in the Glossary. I didn't notice in the text, not really following at the time, but then I read somewhere to check the Glossary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well, it's not really reading, but I just came back from a screening of this Click to reveal.. which was pretty darn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 hi hollywood please don't make any more webcomic movies thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 What about Caltech? They allowed to? I'll admit, I'm not a regular reader of the comic, but I don't think this was an unfaithful adaptation. Pretty short (little over an hour), but any longer and I think it would have dragged. It's mostly gag-and-punchline based, like the comic. You get this maudlin moral at the ending, about maintaining a life and remaining passionate throughout school (ha!), but all told it adds up to less then ten minutes of screentime. The rest is comedy and commiseration. Also: now I want a hash table costume. Also also: what do you mean by more webcomic movies? Have there been others? I know there's been some awfully horrid attempts at shows, but no movies that I know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan Also also: what do you mean by more webcomic movies? Have there been others? I know there's been some awfully horrid attempts at shows, but no movies that I know of. there was a scott pilgrim movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Normally for something to be considered a webcomic it has to appear on the web. —Alorael, who would put Scott Pilgrim more with the rash of comic movies. No, Scott Pilgrim is not DC or Marvel, but it's still a comic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 i thought it was a webcomic before it was a print comic but apparently i was just wrong. whoops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I would go to a Dr. Mcninja movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 I don't think the world is ready for a Dr. McNinja movie. —Alorael, who is aware of several webcomics that have been optioned for movie adaptations. He isn't aware of any others that have come to fruition, nor does he really think that most of them are great fits. There are some comics that could be movies, but many really are best as comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 An XKCD movie would be fun. It would just be a bunch of unrelated, pretentious math-jokes strung together with all the funny ones in the first five minutes. And the other fans would be insufferable -------s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 How about a Darths & Droids movie? Oh wait... Originally Posted By: Dintiradan but all told it adds up to less than ten minutes of screentime. FYT About aGoT: I don't know if it's because I've been reading it during guard duty but I've found it to be quite disappointing, plus I'm at about page 600 and no rape yet (Unless you take into account the statutory rape of Danny which was consensual and which in that world is considered less as rape and more as politics) so why Rape Rape Martin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Keep reading. Or, erm, don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Erasmus I've been reading it during guard duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Brave New World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 After finishing a game of thrones I have found myself unable to continue with the series, so I have moved to lighter reading in the form of Teckla by Steven Brust. I would be very grateful to anyone who could PM me a step by step summary of what else happens on the wall and north of it, as that is the only thing I still find of interest (I don't have the stomach for all the intrigue happening to the south). Also who and what is the importance of Jon's mother?(in PM) And who did Arya see Iliriyo speaking with in the cellar near the dragon skulls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Finished Teckla and am on to Taltos, but that will be it because my library doesn't carry any of his other books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I read some of those books when they first came out, but eventually I lost interest when it started to seem as though everybody was somebody else reincarnated or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The series stopped being in order after a few books so it's a little confusing. If you can find the first, Jhereg it helps to understand some of the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 As part of a genealogy of American colonialism that I am trying to construct, I've been reading relevant portions of Colossus by Niall Ferguson, A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn, and Lies My Teacher Told Me by James W. Loenn. While not books, I've also been reading lots of articles about Nietzsche and Foucault's genealogical methods. I swear these people get paid by the size of their words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Oh, irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 As part of an argument with an acquaintance about climate change and Climategate I've been reading up on academic literature that I am not qualified to understand, government documents that aren't written for human consumption, and very angry blogs. It's been educational. —Alorael, who has mostly learned that one should never bring science to a political fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I recently read some Foucault too. Some actual Foucault though, and I kind of liked it. Sorry GK. Today I finished Julie, or the New Héloïse (English title, because I had to read a translation). The only other Rousseau I'd read was Emile, which was completely different. I'm not a fan of sentimental novels really; I didn't get on with Sterne's A Sentimental Journey really - some of the writing was really wittily written and WAS enjoyable, but much more of it I felt I just didn't "get" - but I found this one much more manageable. It's no Werther (which is sort of not quite a sentimental novel, I guess), but then, what is? I also finally read The Great Gatsby this week too, because a lecturer mentioned it in passing and I realised I'd never read it. After I got over my intense dislike at Nick's total hypocrisy, I really enjoyed it. I'm definitely going to read more American Modernism novels as soon as the semester is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: the brute / Brute heart of a I recently read some Foucault too. Some actual Foucault though, and I kind of liked it. Sorry GK. I've been reading some actual Foucault as well - interviews and lectures - and I do like it. It's just that many of the secondary authors I've been reading have incredibly dense text. Not that I mind that, but it gets a little mind numbing after a few hours. Thankfully, that's not how Jeff writes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: ...on sale now! 50% off! As part of an argument with an acquaintance about climate change and Climategate I've been reading up on academic literature that I am not qualified to understand, government documents that aren't written for human consumption, and very angry blogs. It's been educational. —Alorael, who has mostly learned that one should never bring science to a political fight. You are qualified to understand it. However, scientists are not qualified to write in way that the majority of us will understand without effort. A good scientists is only good if they can actually communicate what they discover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 That's not exactly true. Any science will accumulate its own jargon not only for opacity's sake but because certain methods and procedures are just so standard that they require no further elaboration. As someone not at all versed in the field, that jargon means nothing to me. More importantly for climate research, a lot of disagreement is about methods. I don't know anything about the methods being argued over. I can't decide which is most applicable or what the strengths and weaknesses are. I could figure it out, but that's more depth than I think I need. —Alorael, who found the infamous Mann et al. paper from 1998 intelligible enough. And he was pleased to find their deep, dark secret of hiding dissenting data presented rather clearly in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The debate in climate research is how to correct past data to account for variations in observation stations and possible historical inaccuracies in measurements. This correction process allows both sides to claim they are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk grasshopper Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 In the past week, as I read books concurrently: Ark, stephan Baxter Man in the High Castle, P K Dick Road to Serfdom, Hayek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Holy poo, I just found out that Brian Jacques is dead. Time to break out all of his books and rediscover the magic that captivated me as a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Finished Brave New World. What an interesting book, and it's terrifying because we are certainly headed down that road. Hey at least we'll have soma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Arch-Mage Solberg Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I've been reading The Book of Fate by Brad Meltzer. It's an interesting read. I've been watching his show Decoded for a while and figured I'd read one of his books. Post #645 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Currently reading House of Leaves. Quite the headache. But good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Originally Posted By: Tunnel and Sky Collide Finished Brave New World. What an interesting book, and it's terrifying because we are certainly headed down that road. Hey at least we'll have soma. I haven't read Brave New World since high school, but yeah, it can be rather freaky depending on your interpretation. As for soma, no thanks; I'd rather have a Soma Cube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just finished the Alchemist, I didn't think it was going to be That kind of book, but I still enjoyed it. Now, what to get next? What to get next? What's the name of that book about philosophy with the girl and the cat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Sophie's World fits two of those criteria, but I'd be curious to hear what it actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I just finished Inheritance. The entire series has so much drawn from LotR that I feel like I'm reading a fanfiction. A good fanfic, but still something created from something else. Then again, LotR is based on Wagner's Ring, so I'm reading a fanfic of a fanfic? Anyway, I know that people have criticized the writing in the Eragon books, and that's fine with me. They were fun reads. Now I'm off to read either A) Pride and Prejudice for school or The Hobbit in preparation for the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Originally Posted By: Master1 Then again, LotR is based on Wagner's Ring, so I'm reading a fanfic of a fanfic? I'm not sure how much Wagner's Ring cycle is really the basis of LOTR, but as it happens the cycle is itself based on the Nibelungenlied, so Inheritance would be fanfic^3 by now. What, will the line stretch out to the crack of doom? Not sure anyone has ever described the Ring cycle as fanfic though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Originally Posted By: Actaeon Sophie's World fits two of those criteria, but I'd be curious to here what it actually is. No, you got it right. Originally Posted By: Micawber Originally Posted By: Master1 Then again, LotR is based on Wagner's Ring, so I'm reading a fanfic of a fanfic? I'm not sure how much Wagner's Ring cycle is really the basis of LOTR, but as it happens the cycle is itself based on the Nibelungenlied, I always thought that LotR was directly fanfic'd from Norse mythologies so that would (for me) return it back to fanfic^2 (with all the dwarves and runic writing and the last gods walking the earth(Ea)) p.s. are you sure about the Nibelungenlied? I just wikied it and the story seems more akin to the Illiad than to LotR? (which would make it in your eyes fanfic^4 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 The Nibelungenlied has similar mythic elements as the LotR. Both have a powerful magical ring that is cursed to harm the wearer. Both have a hero who dies and his sword passes to a descendant to be used against the enemy of the family. Both have a forbidden romance between the descendant hero and a woman with divine origins. You can argue that most of these things are common to other myths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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