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Originally Posted By: Spidweb I do not have the capacity to give unlimited copies of games out on iTunes and Steam. It's not an issue of what I would prefer or am willing to do ... It's just not possible on the systems. For example, on iTunes, I only get 50 promo codes for each release (iPad or App Store), total, period. - Jeff Vogel Really? to clarify - its definitely not going to be possible for copies of Avadon that have been purchased direct from spiderweb to be redeemed on steam? That seems odd. Its not a whole new copy after all, just the ability to register an existing copy with steam... how is it that the Humble Bundle managed it on such a massive scale then? Special allowance? :s Also, to the naysayers - the main advantage to doing it is for those use steam as a primary gaming platform. I find i'm much more likely to just jump into a game if i've got them all listed infront of me, which no doubt, i could set up anyway, but steam does it automatically. If you're used to going to steam for your gaming fix, then its handy. It's also handy to keep tabs on how long you've been playing for (something of concern to a lot of people for many different reasons)and the overlay makes it easy to screenshot, chat to friends, track achievements etc. lol, clearly i'm a fan, but i get its not for everyone, you kinda have to go all or nothing with steam. and although all these probably won't apply to Avadon, those that do would still be kinda nice.

True, though i'm hoping (and kind of expecting) that this pricing thing is cleared up a bit for the next release from spiderweb. Avadon was always going to be messy as first on steam and first on ipad after all. I guess one option would be for Jeff to go down the same path as an increasing number of other indie devs by having the optional "pay-more-and-support-the-devs" type deal. So standard price of say $15 across steam, direct spiderweb download and tablet with the option to pay 20/25 (maybe with some kind of incentive? though that's not totally necessary really, but its always nice to have it as a little "thank-you") That way those of us who are already massive fans can shell out more to support Jeff, and new potential fans can get on board more easily because of the cheaper price point. It's win/win! Well those are my thoughts at least. I just know i'd feel kinda bad if i couldn't pay at least $15 for the "new" Avernum ($20 if poison makes a reappearance!

so... after browsing the upcoming titles on steam this morning (rather keen to get my hands on Bastion) but imagine my surprise when i stumbled upon this: http://store.steampowered.com/app/112100 YAY!!! Hopefully this'll mean a whole new bunch of people find out about Jeff's games! Even if Avadon wasn't my personal favorite Spiderweb game, with the Avernum rewrites coming soon, it couldn't have come at a better time really! Big congrats to Jeff and Spiderweb, hopefully it pays off big time for you guys

Quote: Avernum is showing its age and very much in need of freshening up, with a new engine and graphics. Sigh... imo what the Avernum rewrites need most are not better graphics but to pick up some of the complexity that got dropped from the Exile games the first time they were re-made. Poison, Duel-Wielding, Blunt Weapons, Axes, richer spell lists, scrying spells that cost expensive gems (and scry monster! collecting monster info was so much fun in Exile ), monster respawning, more randomness in drops etc. Its a total pipedream I know, particularly if Jeff is using an Avadon-ish engine but the Avernum series was always a bit disappointing in that regard for me. No one likes to see a re-make with less options than the original game surely. A lot of stuff got better, don't get me wrong, and i'm nostalgia plays a role in my discontent... But nevertheless, i'd love to see some of this picked up in the remakes... though i guess the engine may be unfriendly in that regard. sigh back to dreaming i guess

aww... that's really sad to hear. Did they give you a reason? Would a community petition help at all ? I'm sure it would work wonders for sales...