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  1. Again for the sake of not putting this off any longer, I'll be leaving some out for want of ease of looking up. Archimedes: not enough is known about him, really. Still no actual candidates or past U.S. presidents... Lucca Simone de Beauvoir Robo Princess Leia Buffy Summers Henry Agard Wallace Micah Uncle Iroh Jean-Luc Picard Lady Gaga Erika Redmark Zuko Mary Poppins Socrates Sylak Eowyn Captain America Aragorn Katara Frog PlatoGraham NelsonEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington Lisa Simpson Thanos (comics) R2-D2 Aristotle Magus Diogenes the Cynic AangLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Peter Gabriel Orson Welles Mary Shelley Epicurus Kathryn Janeway Puddleglum Professor Oak Sherlock Holmes Ayla Cleopatra Jones Redbeard Zaphod Beeblebrox Julius Caesar Blaise Pascal Olga of Kiev Boudica CiceroThe Doctor Toph Julius Martov Lord British Queen Elizabeth I Melanchion Faramir Dumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred Redmark Bob the Builder Billie HolidayKen Burns Eeyore MarleMultivac Sokka Pat Paulsen Seth MacFarlane Khan Noonien Singh Werdna Mal Reynolds Queen Elizabeth II Clifford the Big Red Dog Aslan Sir Topham Hatt James T. Kirk Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real) Daddy Warbucks Pat Sajak Cardinal Richelieu Sulla Lavos Pilgor the Goat Curious George Kikuchiyo Miss Piggy Lyndon LaRouche Lady Macbeth Benjamin Sisko Darth Vader Evil Abed Crassus PompeySpider Rand al'Thor Caligula Yosemite Sam George Jetson One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush Threepwood Boris JohnsonJulie d'Aubigny Zapp Brannigan Pol Pot Grima, Wormtongue Yogi Bear Shaper Rawal Kylo Ren Harcourt Fenton Mudd George Wickham Ivan the Terrible Genghis Khan Morgoth The White Witch Hawthorne Hitler Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth Báthory KefkaSmaug The Allied Mastercomputer
  2. Re the Cave Lore question -- I wrote that guide for the original release of the game, where money was more limited because the second level of training in a skill or spell cost double what it does now. I still don't think you get much out of training in Cave Lore, but there is more wiggle room with money, so I don't think it's an awful idea either. I still would advise against putting manual points in there, but you do get a few magic items and xp items out it -- meh. Your thinking about trade-offs with pieces of armor is pretty much on the money, especially early on when hit chance is very relevant. Later in the game, once you have high stats and good investment in basic skills, you may reach the point where that doesn't matter much (for non-mages anyway). Also, you eventually start finding great pieces of armor that don't reduce hit chance.
  3. In G4, Servile melee/magic builds are neck-and-neck with Infiltrator magic builds.  It's a different emphasis. This question hasn't been explored for G5 due to the Agent getting the dumb resistances, which is certainly enough to make the difference.
  4. Also, I strongly disagree about Infiltrator beating Servile for a melee-oriented build specifically in G4 (or G5, though Agent in G5 is another question due to the stupid inherent resists). In G4, Servile melee/magic builds are neck-and-neck with Infiltrator magic builds. It's a different emphasis. The Servile is potentially much tankier (leading to the "turtle mage" appellation back when G4 first came out), to the point that he can eat multiple mine blasts and survive. The Infiltrator is much more reliant on Mental Magic, but of course Mental Magic is superb. Infiltrator melee/magic builds are definitely inferior to Infiltrator magic builds, for the reasons alhoon enumerated. It follows then that they are also definitely inferior to Servile melee/magic builds. In G5 you have another consideration, which is that you could run a mostly-solo Sorceress, with greater use of disposable meatshields in place of the Agent's stat pickups in Parry and better HP and so on. The big problem here is, again, that the Agent gets those massive resistance boosts.
  5. 1) I just edited it out by hand. Feel free to re-edit the post (you should be able to now) to replace whatever formatting, line breaks etc. you intended. I had to edit the raw HTML so a bunch of stuff got lost. Grammarly royally screwed up the HTML of the post, and it actually eliminated functionality from all buttons on the page that appeared below your post. (If we were still on old UBB, I fully expect the whole site would have gone down over this :P) I have no idea why it did that, but it was not good. It would appear that there is a bug in the way Grammarly interfaces with this (at least) web form. I would use caution if you continue to use it with web forms. 2) Spell energy rarely matters. It just doesn't. That should not inform your class choice at all.
  6. Hi there, Can you share the following info so we can understand the situation better? Thanks. 2. What operating system are you using (Mac or WIndows?) 3. Did you download the game through Steam, Good Old Games, or another third-party distribution platform? Also, can you share the exact error message wording?
  7. Unless it changed in a version update at some point (I don't think so, but I am the wrong person to check with about that), in G5, the three original classes (Shaper, Guardian, and Agent) had significant, permanent, built-in armor and resistances that the six rebel-type classes did not have. This was not intentional. What happened was that in G4, Shapers, Guardians, and Agents existed only as NPCs, and so their base creature types were given all the regular sorts of damage resistances that NPCs with fighting ability tend to have. (Because NPCs don't manually add skill points the way the player does, of course.) Jeff just forgot to take these resistances back out when those creatures became available for use as the PC again. Especially if you play as an agent/infiltrator with few to no creations, this can make a noticeable difference in how easy or hard the game is. (Also, I can't remember if these baked-in resistances display on the status screen or not.)
  8. In normal difficulty, you can pretty run anything and if it's at least half-baked it will work. There have been numerous threads and posts here dumping on Shock Troopers. I'm not going to reiterate years of abuse, but basically, it's not that you can't do OK with them, it's that they are strictly worse than other options, without providing any kind of additional playstyle or anything like that. Also, I'm pre-emptively exiting the argument now, due to the history of these things going on forever...
  9. "It would be a little tougher than with a Shaper (because magic > fighting) but not much" No, that will be way more than a little tougher.
  10. You can join each of them in sequence, but you can only belong to one at a time. Also, note that G1 has more than one set of alliance options. You have the Awakened/Obeyers/Takers, and you also have Trajkov/Goettsch.
  11. One rule above all: KEEP MULTIPLE SAVES AT ALL TIMES. Geneforge makes this easy. Lots of slots, easy to select between them. So just keep a few backup saves -- make a new one every time you go to a new zone, for example. That way, even if you do something you feel "ruins" your game experience, you can turn back the clock and undo it. If you're not worried about a "ruinous" action this is less important. The "big" decisions, like which faction(s) (if any) you align yourself with, are generally VERY obvious in-game.
  12. On that note, @Puksis, remember that lots of kids play Spiderweb games and the boards are supposed to be family friendly. The Code of Conduct is now hidden in plain sight (under "Guidelines" which is so centrally located I couldn't find it just now :D), so if you haven't read it, take a look: http://spiderwebforums.ipbhost.com/guidelines/ This isn't a warning or anything, just a reminder. That said, given the way this thread has veered, I'm locking it. Adios.
  13. For the sake of not putting this off any longer I'm going to stick to people I can evaluate based on what I already know and/or through simple googling. Sorry, historical conquerors whose actual actions I am slightly vague on! I'll come back to you later if I have time. Lucca Simone de Beauvoir Robo Princess Leia Buffy Summers Henry Agard Wallace Micah Uncle Iroh Jean-Luc Picard Lady Gaga Erika Redmark Zuko Sylak Eowyn Captain America Aragorn Katara FrogGraham NelsonEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington Lisa Simpson R2-D2 Magus AangLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Peter Gabriel Orson Welles Mary Shelley Kathryn Janeway Puddleglum Professor Oak Sherlock Holmes Ayla Cleopatra Jones Redbeard Zaphod Beeblebrox Julius Caesar Blaise Pascal Olga of Kiev Boudica CiceroThe Doctor Toph Julius Martov Lord British Melanchion Faramir Dumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBob the Builder Billie HolidayKen Burns Eeyore MarleMultivac Sokka Pat Paulsen Seth MacFarlane Khan Noonien Singh Werdna Mal Reynolds Clifford the Big Red Dog Aslan Sir Topham Hatt James T. Kirk Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real) Daddy WarbucksPat Sajak Cardinal Richelieu Sulla Lavos Pilgor the Goat Curious George Kikuchiyo Miss Piggy Lyndon LaRouche Lady Macbeth Benjamin Sisko Darth Vader Evil Abed Crassus PompeySpider Rand al'Thor Caligula Yosemite Sam George Jetson One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush ThreepwoodJulie d'Aubigny Zapp Brannigan Grima, Wormtongue Yogi Bear Kylo Ren Harcourt Fenton Mudd George Wickham Ivan the Terrible Genghis Khan Morgoth The White Witch Hawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth Báthory KefkaSmaug The Allied Mastercomputer I wasn't sure Smaug was going to be dethroned, but you did it, Dinti.
  14. Important note about that dump (which I made over a decade ago): While MOST of the responses for a given NPC are all listed in a row, if the response differs based on certain conditions (for example, if you've completed a quest) it is listed in a totally separate part of the dump with no easily legible indication of which NPC it is used with. These are some of the most important keywords and responses, obviously, so beware.
  15. 1. Nero: way too much ambiguity in the historical record for me to place him with any precision. 2. Leonidas, Spartacus: inadequate detail to say much beyond "eh" 3. Burger King: zero detail 4. Cinipioatoato: despite my love of antiquity, and with apologies, I just don't care about some of these guys. I'm also interested to note that there is now at least one person on the list whom I view identically to one of the current candidates. Not only would I rank them together, I see them as having exactly the same strengths and weaknesses. Lucca Simone de Beauvoir Robo Princess Leia Henry Agard Wallace Micah Uncle Iroh Jean-Luc Picard Lady Gaga Erika Redmark Zuko Sylak Eowyn Captain America Aragorn Katara FrogGraham NelsonEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington Lisa Simpson R2-D2 Magus AangLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Peter Gabriel Orson Welles Mary Shelley Kathryn Janeway Puddleglum Professor Oak Sherlock Holmes Ayla Cleopatra Jones Redbeard Zaphod Beeblebrox Julius Caesar Olga of Kiev Boudica CiceroThe Doctor Toph Julius Martov Lord British Melanchion Faramir Dumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBillie HolidayKen Burns Eeyore MarleMultivac Sokka Pat Paulsen Seth MacFarlane Werdna Mal Reynolds Aslan James T. Kirk Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real) Daddy WarbucksCardinal Richelieu Sulla Pilgor the Goat Kikuchiyo Miss Piggy Lyndon LaRouche Benjamin Sisko Darth Vader Evil Abed Crassus PompeySpider Rand al'Thor Caligula Yosemite Sam George Jetson One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush ThreepwoodJulie d'Aubigny Zapp Brannigan Grima, Wormtongue Yogi Bear Harcourt Fenton Mudd George Wickham Ivan the TerribleGenghis Khan Hawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth BáthorySmaug
  16. 1. Inadequate familiarity, sorry: Shodan, Cortana, Jonny Quest, Hari Seldon. 2. A few other minor shifts up and down. This list has gotten sprawling enough that if it's just a couple of places, I think I'm just going to make those when I see them without comment -- that's pretty minor. 3. For the Avatar folks, placing Sokka and Iroh was easy, but I actually found myself surprised by the order in which I ended up putting the four primary benders. 4. I'm also surprised that something else still hasn't happened at all. Lucca Simone de Beauvoir Robo Princess Leia Henry Agard Wallace Micah Uncle Iroh Jean-Luc Picard Lady Gaga Erika Redmark Zuko Sylak Eowyn Captain America Aragorn Katara FrogGraham NelsonEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington Lisa Simpson R2-D2 Magus AangLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Peter Gabriel Orson Welles Mary Shelley Puddleglum Professor Oak Sherlock Holmes Ayla Cleopatra Jones Zaphod Beeblebrox Olga of Kiev BoudicaThe DoctorToph Julius Martov Melanchion Faramir Dumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBillie HolidayKen Burns Eeyore MarleMultivac Sokka Pat Paulsen Seth MacFarlane Mal Reynolds Aslan Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real) Daddy WarbucksCardinal Richelieu Pilgor the Goat Kikuchiyo Miss Piggy Lyndon LaRouche Darth Vader Evil AbedSpider Rand al'Thor Yosemite Sam George Jetson One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush ThreepwoodJulie d'Aubigny Zapp Brannigan Grima, Wormtongue Yogi Bear Harcourt Fenton Mudd George Wickham Ivan the TerribleHawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth BáthorySmaug
  17. Ah, right, the 10-cap. It's only universally present in G1, but it persists for some stats for a varying number of games -- notably for the three shaping skills, which lasted through at least G4 IIRC.
  18. Yeah, this is not quite accurate. Spellcraft 0 to 5 would be cheaper, sure. Spellcraft 10 to 15 would be a LOT more expensive. Remember that the cost difference between individual magic skills and Spellcraft is actually greatest for the strong magic classes. Pure magic infilitrators are great. They are close enough in effectiveness to melee/magic serviles that I don't really have an opinion about which is better. (Lifecrafters will still be stronger, ultimately, because the game is about shaping and shaping is deliberately super strong.)
  19. 1. Calling Pat Paulsen a presidential candidate seems a little misleading, but I guess he technically was on the primary ballot in New Hampshire a few times. 2. Don't hate me, but I never liked Spinal Tap, and haven't watched it in maybe 25 years, so I don't have much on those guys. 3. Just like last time I think it would be best not to include any forum members in the ranking. (Though honestly, a lot of you might end up with a relatively decent ranking.) 4. Oh good, the Marvel alternate universes are back. Initially I was going to just do one Cap for the comics and one for the modern movies. Ultimately, though, I have pretty much the same opinion of both of them. Captain America is easily one of least unfaithful of the MCU adaptations. And despite how often I hear him invoked as an exemplar of Lawful Good, and despite the flag, he's been operating shockingly deep in progressive, civil-libertarian territory since at least the 70's. 5. I think one Genesis member is enough. 6. Farscape goes in the "haven't watched, not sure I can briefly assess" category. 7. On further consideration, I'm moving Eowyn, Frog, Graham Nelson, and Aragorn down a varying but small number of steps. Lucca Simone de Beauvoir RoboPrincess Leia Henry Agard Wallace Sylak Eowyn Micah Jean-Luc Picard Lady Gaga Erika Redmark Captain America Aragorn FrogGraham NelsonEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington R2-D2 MagusLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Peter Gabriel Mary Shelley Puddleglum Professor OakCleopatra Jones Olga of Kiev BoudicaThe Doctor AylaMelanchion Faramir Dumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBillie HolidayKen Burns Eeyore MarleMultivac Pat Paulsen Seth MacFarlane Mal Reynolds Aslan Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real)Cardinal Richelieu Pilgor the Goat Kikuchiyo Miss Piggy Lyndon LaRouche Darth Vader Evil AbedSpider Rand al'Thor One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush ThreepwoodJulie d'Aubigny Grima, Wormtongue Harcourt Fenton Mudd George Wickham Ivan the TerribleHawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth BáthorySmaug
  20. Lucca Simone de Beauvoir EowynSylak RoboMicah Jean-Luc Picard Aragorn FrogGraham NelsonLady GagaEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington R2-D2 MagusLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Mary Shelley Puddleglum Professor OakOlga of KievThe Doctor AylaMelanchion FaramirDumbledore StarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBillie HolidayKen Burns MarleMultivac Seth MacFarlane Aslan Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real)Cardinal Richelieu Pilgor the Goat Darth Vader Evil AbedSpiderRand al'Thor One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Guybrush ThreepwoodJulie d'Aubigny Grima, Wormtongue Harcourt Fenton Mudd Ivan the TerribleHawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth BáthorySmaug Rahl: Don't know and seems difficult to briefly assess. Aslan: Boy, you gave me some trouble with this one! Robot Steve Irwin from the Future: If this is a thing I can't find it. Is this a thing? Goat simulator goat: Pilgor is a good stand-in for not having a President at all, basically.
  21. You're speaking as if everyone here (1) is into ladies, and (2) thinks it's appropriate to objectify them, 90's fantasy artwork style.
  22. Additions in bold: Lucca Simone de Beauvoir EowynSylak RoboMicah Jean-Luc Picard FrogGraham NelsonLady GagaEmpress Prazac Abigail Adams Honor Harrington R2-D2 MagusLord Havelock VetinariKing ArthurCleopatra (Shakespeare) Mary Shelley PuddleglumOlga of KievThe Doctor AylaMelanchion FaramirStarrusGladwellManfred RedmarkBillie HolidayKen Burns MarleMultivac Henri IIIAyn RandCleopatra (real)Cardinal Richelieu Darth VaderSpiderOne of the 7 dwarves (Disney)Julie d'Aubigny Grima, Wormtongue Harcourt Fenton Mudd Ivan the TerribleHawthorne Emperor PalpatineDorikasElizabeth BáthorySmaug Adama: I have to claim ignorance, I'm afraid, having never watched any of it and not feeling like Wikipedia will be adequate in this case. A few of these somewhat obscure historical rulers I'm having to leave out because I don't know much about them and I don't feel like I can generate adequate context to rank them accurately without significant research. There are a few names now where I see the potential for them to deserve a higher ranking, but have lowered them due to concerns that might or might not surface -- as with Multivac, I suppose.
  23. Interesting picks! This has turned out to be a bit of a difficult task, trying to balance assessments of potential governing competency with those of likely ideological approach. Here's the list so far: Simone de Beauvoir Sylak Micah Graham Nelson Lady Gaga Empress Prazac Lord Havelock Vetinari King Arthur Cleopatra (Shakespeare) Olga of Kiev The Doctor Melanchion Starrus Gladwell Manfred Redmark Billie Holiday Ken Burns Multivac Ayn Rand Cleopatra (real) Cardinal Richelieu Spider One of the 7 dwarves (Disney) Julie d'Aubigny Hawthorne Dorikas Elizabeth Báthory Smaug Multivac would be a lot higher, except for that one pesky fatal problem. I don't actually find much need to separate the Doctors on this one, though perhaps if I cared more about that property I might. I also don't find much need to separate the Disney dwarves on this one. Interestingly, while it's easy to think of some people I'd take over Simone de Beauvoir, Smaug has got to be pretty close to the bottom of the list.
  24. Hi Abydos, friendly neighborhood mod here. Since you already have a topic where you asked 2 of these 3 questions (less than half a day ago), please just continue that topic rather than making a new one. It's confusing to have two different topics that are about the exact same questions. Thanks. Locking this topic.
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