Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 I just searched the scripts. It appears the only items there are unlimited "collection quests" for are Research Notes, Swamp Herbs, and Melted Glass. That's going to lighten my inventory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 This may, in fact, be the most helpful post ever. I had even been collecting paper... just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 -X- does not sell anything. Anything. It is in his nature to stack everything up in a single area of extreme value. Currently, that area is General Alwan's quarters. It's not really a problem until -X- finds an area that he likes better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Most of the items that were collection quests from previous games aren't needed this time. You still need the creations parts for recipes and the gemstones and the red crystals with wiry moss and saltweed for other forged items. I found that my money problems went away in Chapter 4 when the first time through I finally decided to start selling almost everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 I'm in the middle of chapter 2 and have about 7500 gold on hand. That's after spending 5000 on Spellcraft and another chunk of change on a selection of spells. Granted, I haven't bought any creations, but those wouldn't cost too much. I'm sure stuff gets more expensive, but I find it hard to believe there's going to be the massive financial crunch people have been commenting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 The earlier betas didn't have enough money or living tools to be had, so Jeff bumped both up. Now I think there are too many living tools, and about the right amount or a bit more than needed for money, especially if you sell off things you aren't going to use, including the older magical gear that has been replaced by something better. Depending on which class I play, I've wound up with up to $20K gold in excess at some point in the game, including the end once. As a Mental Servile (heh) in my present game, I had about 15K gold going into chapter three, and promptly spent it all in the rebel and shaper camps on magic and shaping. If you are a class that does very little with magic, you will have a lot more money for shaping and other stuff. I store my anvil goods at the mouth of Sandros mine for the first half of the game, and all other goods I store at the mouth of Southforge, then another friendly town later in the game. I almost never use wands and find my attack crystals no longer effective long before I use them up, so wind up selling a few dozen ice crystals or spray crystals at some point into the game. There is no anvil use for shaped blades or shaped shields, nor puresteel weapons and armor. All I buy is living tools, some essence pods (of which I usually have many on hand,) some rare anvil ingredients, and the Runed Amethyst from Uchitelle so I can acidify my steel sword as soon as possible. I never make wands, attack crystals, or rings, except maybe a madness gem or two near the end of the game. This means there are many anvil ingredients I never need and just sell as I get them, like saltweed, wiry moss, etc. I have been making lists of where special items and ingredients are found and will post them. Have look at my anvil recipes list elsewhere here if you want to know what you will ultimately want to have on hand or not for making things. Your first time through, it's probably more fun to find out as you go though. I make my lists to be useful for replaying the game for optimization. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Icy crystals are great against wingbolts if you have the dexterity and missle weapons since they do full damage and will kill one in 2 or 3 shots. They also will usually kill a vlish. Spray crystals are pretty useless after chapter 2. Swarm crystals are better and torrent gems (aura of flames) are great. I save madness gems for when I want to convert many creations to my side and don't have mass madness yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Bartholom Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 After playing all Geneforge and Avernum games i am always afraid to sell things like iron bars or shaper equipment, thanks for assuring me that i can really sell most of my just-in-case-collection this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 If you don't mind more spoilers, you can also learn what Shaped items should be kept for turning into artifacts. It's not the same set as G3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I hate the fact that you can't make all eight of the artifacts. So, really, you don't even need to keep all the artifact ingredients either. It would be one thing if you had to choose between two cloaks or two belts, but you have to choose between boots or belts! How am I supposed to choose between going barefoot or having my leggings of the tyrant fall down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Congratulations, ET, you finally made me laugh. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Great. And that was the one time I was actually being serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Servile Synergy:As a Mental Servile <snip> I hope you mean that as in "Skilled in mental magic" and not as in "Actually mental" I seldom sell anything.If I get really desperate I use the "iampoor" cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 We all get mental after a few canisters. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 hehe thats true.Or sometimes by using the Geneforge (like Shaila) off topic:would using the geneforge reapeatbly make you uber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally by Eater of Pancakes: Quote: off topic:would using the geneforge reapeatbly make you uber? Probably not. Once the geneforge changes inferior genes to perfected ones, they can't be changed again. Dikiyoba. Edit: Added quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 It sure does make you uber! Just wait until you get to Northforge, you'll get a chance to use the Geneforge again. Do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 ET, you're on a roll. That evoked laugh number two. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 On the topic of Artifacts, which cloak do you have to use to get a perfected cloak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Shaper Fiber Cloak... or is it Shaped Fiber Cloak? One of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Ok, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 What other items should be collected, hung onto? Even if you only have a quest to collect one or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Skrat Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 As the new guy in town, I thought I would put my 2 coins worth in here... I like the fact that merchants do not have a limited cash supply as in previous Geneforge versions. I can go back to the same stores again and again selling off my loot. I have a couple of nice treasure troves built up in the South Citadel and at the north edge of the Eastern Rise so that I can easily dump any items I find. I have cleaned out expendable items a few times so that I can buy spells and magic. I do wonder why I carry around so much stuff in my backpack however. I can never decide what items will be best on hand, excluding the charms. I am also holding on to many of the ingredients for the anvil but am thinking I should sell a few of those, too. But which ones? That is always the dilemma for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Most of the anvil ingredients to improve items aren't worth it. Save golden crystals and steel spines since they always help. Blessing crystals are okay for the beginning half of the game to increase damage although you could also used a runed ruby or amethyst for fire or acid bonus damage. I usually sell off most of the others since cold isn't that helpful. For heavy spell users save madness gems, rotgroth fangs, and glaahk eyes for mental focus charms. It really depends upon what you use when playing. Most of the time you don't need gemstones since most players don't use icy crystals. If you don't plan to use it later than sell it since you can buy most of them later on in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kenn5 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 _________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ WOW all this talking is making me get impatient for the window's version of geneforge 4 ---------------------------------------- Edit: Dikiyoba had no idea what this post originally looked like, but it was stretching the page unbearably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kenn5 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 cant wait till it comes out oh shoot im gonna edit the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kenn5 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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