Posted 13 August 2016 - 12:03 PM Tell me if this thought makes sense
Characters who meet stereotyped expectations can be annoying, but they won't usually make me stop reading.
Well established characters behaving way out of type can also be annoying; but again, won't necessarily make me stop reading.
However. When a well established character, with an established personality and beliefs, suddenly starts conforming to a stereotype that is completely out of character for them, it's usually time for me to swear out loud and put the book down. That just hurts. I haven't seen many examples of it, but the ones I have seen are all memorable cases that I wouldn't read again.
Posted 13 August 2016 - 12:39 PM Tell me if this thought makes sense
I've seen having a stereotypical behavior that just shouldn't exist in context. Back during the 1980s there was a Star Trek novel where a character was using a racist nickname when talking to a Vulcan character that was wrong then and really shouldn't have happened in the enlighten Starfleet Academy setting.
"Oh, I'm sure we can think of something .... How much gold do you have?" - "Hero"
"We're all screwed if Cthulhu shows up. Try to enjoy life in the meantime." - Adam Rawnsley
Posted 13 August 2016 - 01:14 PM Tell me if this thought makes sense
The 1990s relaunch of the Star Wars novels had much stronger central direction from Lucas Film, but still had some poor moments. The problem with comic books is that they feel a need to completely re-invent themselves every so often (kind of like soap operas) and so Captain America being part of Hydra or Batman being the Dark Knight (which is/was critically acclaimed) is done to get new/more readers. The transitions in the DC lineup in the 1980s ended my spending on comics.
Posted 13 August 2016 - 09:02 PM Tell me if this thought makes sense
Posted 14 August 2016 - 01:51 PM Tell me if this thought makes sense
Got it in one.
In this case it was an SF novel I'd been reading. Note, possible spoilers follow, and also stuff that some people might find triggery...
And it hurt all the more because, up until then, it had been really good and engrossing, and had studiously avoided the usual cliches.
However, I've seen the same kind of thing before, again mostly around gender stuff. Michael Crichton seems to have been a common offender.
Ventus by Karl Schroeder, which I mentioned a while back, was also a particularly painful example:
What's astonishing to me is that this stuff is not even subtle. Timeline and Sphere were why I had completely given up on Michael Crichton before I'd started high school. "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."
(Aaaaaand let's hope this doesn't go overboard into rant territory.)
[Edit: Ventus is not a Crichton novel, in case you were wondering]
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