Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'm currently working my way through the various endings and i noticed that in the unaligned and servant endings this line shows up in the middle "it still feels like the story is incomplete" What have i missed? i wiped out everybody, destroyed all research and got rid of the barrier of the winds and i still got it. there are still some people that aren't hostile like in Triola but I would assume that they don't count. Also interesting is that Geth isn't hostile after wiping out the rest of the Barzites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nim Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Triola doesn't matter. Iirc the Awakened can be completely ignored in the unaligned ending. This is Ghaldrings faction guide. http://spiderwebforu...in-geneforge-2/ https://app.box.com/shared/e099rcyq0c Reaction of the Barzites to indiscretions: - Sabotaging in the radiant college and/or killing both researchers results in Rising turning hostile. However, Gheth remains friendly. - Leaving the Barzites results in the merchants in Gheth refusing to sell to you. - Being a member of the Takers makes Rising hostile. - Killing Barzhal makes Rising and Gheth hostile. So it sounds like you messed up somewhere with killing Barzahl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 For the unaligned ending, did you kill all four sets of faction leaders? This includes Zakary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've done it with just the drakon leaders and Barzel (including radiant college). Then I killed the guy in complex core, Pinner, then Zakary, Geth and then cleaned up the barrier of the winds. All had similar endings narrating what happened after I spoke to the council. This changed only based on who I killed and how happy they were. The next screen starts off with feeling that something in my story is incomplete. Then it finishes if with how happy I am to be useful to the shaper council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 There is also an ending for those who leave the valley without joining any faction or completing any main quest with all the leaders alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Did you determine Shanti's fate and resolve it? I'm pretty sure something gets noted in the ending if you didn't follow through that plot thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Yes, I got her. I'll try to get a screenshot of it later, but I can't figure out how to post images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nim Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Upload to imgur and then paste link here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I think Triumph is right -- that sounds like the line you get when you haven't completely, ah, followed up on the Shanti issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Blxz Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just to confirm, the full, best, unaligned ending requires: - no canister use - all for faction leaders dead (Barzahl, zakary, some taker drakon thingy and probably tuldaric) - not to be a member of a faction - 'followed up' on shanti (which I assume means that thing that happens in barzarite lands?) - anything else? I'm keen to attempt this one myself soonish but would hate to get all the way through and miss out a key point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm pretty sure Pinner is required. Not sure if Tuldaric is. But there are definitely multiple Taker leaders that have to die. Following up on Shanti is a multi-step procedure that involves discovering what has happened and then responding to it like a boss Shaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm pretty sure Pinner is required. Not sure if Tuldaric is. But there are definitely multiple Taker leaders that have to die. i mean if you want to go that route you may as well just kill every named npc just to make sure, there's nobody in the area that the shapers specifically want alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) I went back to the council clearly showing canister abuse they didn't care about my story I told them how i killed lots of people and that made them happy i finished up my story and everyone just nodded then got concerned then started getting concerned about me and now it feels strangely incomplete (also if someone could help me imbed these images.....) Edited March 6, 2016 by Slartibus by request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 You weren't actually linking to the images, you were linking to the imgur pages featuring those images. And yeah, there is definitely a more triumphant version of thsi ending. It looks like canister use (+ maybe being altered) are the problem here. The alteration may not affect anything outside of its paragraph though, I don't remember. ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 so i removed the effect of the canisters and now the council is happier but once again my story is incomplete I wonder if that is the setup for geneforge 3, implying that no matter what i accomplished things were going to get worse. interestingly enough, even though i cleaned shop and massacred pretty much the entire population of the valley, the human takers got away. this definitely leads to a continuation of the conflict between the shapers and the most radical of the opposition groups. the only real difference canisters have in the unaligned endings seems to be that you are respected by your peers instead of feared. you end off both as being rich and happy. ps. thank you Slarty for helping me figure out the picture issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'm about 99% sure that being altered has no effect whatsoever on anything except your ability to use advanced spells / shaping (i.e. no effect on "canister count" nor any other effect on the ending. I experimented with it in the past and felt pretty confident on that point. I'm actually wondering if there's a glitch in the ending text. Notice that two paragraphs in a row begin "Finally, you finish telling your tale." Jeff is usually a better writer than to do something like that. I wonder if the "incomplete" paragraph is only supposed to show up if you left the valley without fulfilling a set of ending conditions, but is wrongly showing up in your ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think Triumph is right. Given that ernie said "I removed the effect of the canisters" -- making it clear that he is operating through SDF editing or some other kind of editing -- one possibility is that he has a combination of flags set, that cannot come about through just playing the game, and that the "bug" is actually therefore the result of the editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 I did use the SDF codes but only to remove the canister effect as I never got altered. It seems that canister usage and altered shows up the same text. This was the only code I used and it was after I killed everyone else and went through the ending sequence a number of times. Looking back at the first set screenshots from before the SDF codes, shows the same double paragraph, so I guess it is a glitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 There are points where the options for how one SDF ends up being set, might depend on what another SDF is. So changing an SDF later on could easily result in a not-normally-obtainable combination of SDF values. Whether or not that happened here, it's certainly a thing that _can_ happen. Triumph is probably right about alteration not affecting the ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nim Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 This is part of the ending when you only do the "Locate Zakary, Locate Barzahl and Find Shanti quests". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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