Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sade tested everything and put all of his data into Slarty's chart. Thanks, Sade! This should show the minimum requirements to reach and use all level 3 spellbooks. | Spell.................| AL...| SL?..| VL?..| Location...........| VL:X...| Lens | Ath..| MM:X | DB:X | Other..................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Sanctification Ritual | .1...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Unshackle Mind........| .2...| SL...| VL...| Nephilim Castle....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Bolt of Fire..........| .3...| SL...| VL...| Aranea Web.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Call Beast............| .4...| SL...| VL...| Lizard Lair........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Cloak of Curses.......| .5...| SL...| VL...| Verdant Valley 2F..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Curing................| .5...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Heal..................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Ruins (Formello B1)| VL:1...| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Mass Curing...........| .9...| SL...| VL...| S of Fort Dranlon..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Use SW fountain........| | Haste.................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Almaria............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Dispel Barrier........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Portal Ritual.........| .2...| --...| --...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Patrick's Quest.......| --...| --...| --...| Patrick's Tower....| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Summon Shade..........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | War Blessing..........| 11...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Domination............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dharmon............| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| DB:1 | Boat...................| | Cloak of Bolts........| .6...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Minor Summons.........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | Magi...................| | Mass Heal.............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Ostoth.................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Summon Aid............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Nephar Fortress....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Minor Heal............| .5...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult.......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Smite.................| .7...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Daze..................| .8...| SL...| VL...| Coven Cave.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Vahnatai Secrets......| --...| --...| --...| Coven Cave.........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Ward of Elements......| 11...| SL...| VL...| Gnass..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| Quest..................| | Howl of Terror........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Trapped Hall.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Call the Storm........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cotra..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | or TU:12...............| | Divine Fire...........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Blosk..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Lightning Spray.......| 10...| SL...| VL...| Solberg's Tower....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| (Crown)................| | Move Mountains........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult B1....| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Fireblast.............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Erika's Tower......| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| (Magi).................| | Slow..................| .6...| SL...| VL...| Lair of Athron.....| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | DB:1 | --.....................| | Ward of Thoughts......| .8...| SL...| VL...| Giant's Cave.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | --...| --.....................| | Pass Statue...........| --...| --...| --...| Ominous Crypt......| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Resistance Crystal....| 13...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Scroll and Crystal....| --...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Capture Soul..........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dark Tunnel........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Spray Acid............| .8...| --...| --...| Tower of Elderan...| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Return Life...........| 14...| SL...| VL...| Empire Archives....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | TU:11..................| | Protection............| .9...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Simulacrum............| 11...| SL...| VL...| Pyrog's Cave.......| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Cloak of Blades.......| .9...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Jekknol).......| | Blink.................| .7...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Vyvnas)........| | Icy Rain..............| 10...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower B1.| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | 2 Souls, TU:8 on one PC| | Vahnatai Lore +1......| --...| --...| --...| Ornotha Ziggurat...| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Ward of Steel.........| 11...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Caffren).......| | Arcane Summon.........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Divine Retribution....| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Cloak of the Arcane...| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Divine Restoration....| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Emergency Spell #1....| 13...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| MM:3 | --...| --.....................| | Emergency Spell #2....| 15...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| TU:15..................| | Arcane Blow...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................| | Divine Host...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................| Suggested raw Arcane Lore for different points: Demo area & Dark Waters - 5 After reaching the Tower of Magi - 7 plus 2 Vahnatai Lore After receiving Magi Clearance - 10 plus 2 Vahnatai Lore When finally undertaking the Crystal Souls quest sequences - 13 (plus Vahnatai Lore) [spoileralt=Chart before Sade's additions]Here's an alternate list. I've tried to make it easy to scan and sort things by category. I've also listed the spells in (roughly) the order they might be encountered in. I've been very cautious about putting ? for stuff I'm not absolutely sure of so look for more of this to be filled in. (Also, ALL help eliminating ?'s, for any spots you're sure of, would be great.) | Spell.................| AL...| SL?..| VL?..| Location...........| VL:X...| Lens | Ath..| MM:X | DB:X | Other..................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Sanctification Ritual | .1...| SL...| ?....| Formello...........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Unshackle Mind........| .2...| SL...| VL ? | Nephilim Castle....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Bolt of Fire..........| .3...| SL...| ?....| Aranea Web.........| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Call Beast............| .4...| SL...| ?....| Lizard Lair........| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Cloak of Curses.......| .5...| SL...| ?....| Verdant Valley 2F..| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Curing................| .5 ? | SL...| ?....| Tower of Magi......| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Heal..................| .9 ? | SL...| VL...| Ruins (Formello B1)| VL:1 ? | --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Mass Curing...........| .9 ? | SL...| VL ? | S of Fort Dranlon..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Use SW fountain........| | Haste.................| .9 ? | SL...| VL...| Almaria............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Dispel Barrier........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Barrier Tower......| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| ?....| Magi...................| | Portal Ritual.........| .2...| --...| --...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Patrick's Quest.......| --...| --...| --...| Patrick's Tower....| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Summon Shade..........| .9 ? | SL...| VL ? | Patrick's Tower....| ?......| Lens | --...| --...| ?....| Quest..................| | War Blessing..........| 11 ? | ?....| ?....| Patrick's Tower....| ?......| Lens | --...| --...| ?....| Quest..................| | Domination............| 12 ? | ?....| ?....| Dharmon............| ?......| Lens | --...| ?....| DB:1 | Boat...................| | Cloak of Bolts........| .5 ? | SL...| ?....| Formello...........| ?......| Lens | --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Minor Summons.........| .6 ? | SL...| ?....| Cave of Motrax.....| ?......| ?....| --...| MM:? | DB:? | Magi...................| | Mass Heal.............| .6 ? | SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| ?......| --...| --...| --...| --...| Ostoth.................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Summon Aid............| .8 ? | SL...| ?....| Nephar Fortress....| ?......| ?....| --...| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Minor Heal............| .5 ? | SL...| ?....| Serpent Cult.......| ?......| ?....| --...| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Smite.................| .7 ? | SL...| ?....| Tower of Magi......| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Daze..................| .7 ? | SL...| ?....| Coven Cave.........| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Vahnatai Secrets......| ??...| -- ? | VL ? | Coven Cave.........| VL:1 ? | --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Ward of Elements......| 11 ? | ?....| ?....| Gnass..............| ?......| ?....| --...| MM:1 | --...| Quest..................| | Howl of Terror........| .8 ? | ?....| ?....| Trapped Hall.......| ?......| ?....| --...| MM:? | ?....| --.....................| | Call the Storm........| .6 ? | SL...| ?....| Cotra..............| ?......| ?....| --...| MM:1 | DB:1 | or TU:12...............| | Divine Fire...........| .8 ? | ?....| ?....| Blosk..............| ?......| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Lightning Spray.......| 10 ? | SL...| VL ? | Solberg's Tower....| ?......| ?....| --...| --...| ?....| (Crown)................| | Move Mountains........| 10 ? | ?....| ?....| Serpent Cult B1....| ?......| --...| Ath..| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Fireblast.............| 12 ? | ?....| ?....| Erika's Tower......| ?......| ?....| Ath..| --...| --...| (Magi).................| | Slow..................| 10 ? | SL...| VL ? | Lair of Athron.....| ?......| ?....| --...| MM:2 | ?....| --.....................| | Ward of Thoughts......| .8 ? | SL...| ?....| Giant's Cave.......| ?......| ?....| --...| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Pass Statue...........| --...| --...| --...| Ominous Crypt......| VL:1 ? | --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Resistance Crystal....| 13...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:? | --.....................| | Scroll and Crystal....| --...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| VL:1 ? | --...| --...| --...| DB:? | --.....................| | Capture Soul..........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dark Tunnel........| VL:1 ? | ?....| --...| --...| ?....| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Spray Acid............| .8...| --...| --...| Tower of Elderan...| --.....| ?....| ?....| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Return Life...........| 14 ? | ?....| ?....| Empire Archives....| ?......| ?....| ?....| ?....| ?....| TU:11..................| | Protection............| 10 ? | ?....| ?....| Tower of Magi......| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Simulacrum............| 11 ? | ?....| ?....| Pyrog's Cave.......| ?......| ?....| ?....| ?....| ?....| --.....................| | Cloak of Blades.......| 12 ? | --...| -- ? | Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Jekknol).......| | Blink.................| 11 ? | --...| -- ? | Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Vyvnas)........| | Icy Rain..............| ??...| ?....| ?....| Patrick's Tower B1.| ?......| Lens | ?....| MM:? | DB:? | 2 Souls, TU:8 on one PC| | Vahnatai Lore +1......| --...| --...| --...| Ornotha Ziggurat...| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| --.....................| | Ward of Steel.........| 11 ? | --...| -- ? | Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Caffren).......| | Arcane Summon.........| ??...| ?....| ?....| Olgai..............| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Divine Retribution....| ??...| ?....| ?....| Olgai..............| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Cloak of the Arcane...| 11 ? | SL ? | VL ? | Tower of Magi......| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Divine Restoration....| 11 ? | SL ? | VL ? | Tower of Magi......| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Emergency Spell #1....| 13 ? | -- ? | -- ? | Garzahd's Fortress | -- ?...| -- ? | Ath..| MM:2 | --...| --.....................| | Emergency Spell #2....| 14 ? | -- ? | -- ? | Garzahd's Fortress | -- ?...| -- ? | Ath..| --...| --...| TU:15..................| | Arcane Blow...........| 12 ? | ?....| ?....| Castle.............| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| Garzahd................| | Divine Host...........| 12 ? | ?....| ?....| Castle.............| ?......| ?....| ?....| --...| --...| Garzahd................| [/spoileralt] TrueAlcove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt mikeprichard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Slarty, awesome work putting this together; this is exactly what we need. Is there any way you could fix the column alignment though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Reload. But I'm impressed that you saw this in the first 5 seconds it was posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt mikeprichard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Oooooh, purdy. And yeah, I'm not obsessively checking these forums every 15 minutes, or anything crazy like that. Again, awesome work - I'll try to contribute as I can, assuming I can confirm anything 100% (probably by cheating AL/SL values before opening books - except I've already got 2 VL on my party, and I don't know how to cheat-remove those VL points, so my input might not be as useful as could be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt TriRodent Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 On my latest run through I wanted to make sure that I had Cloak of Curses at L3 before heading down the river. Having also been following the 'SL/AL, what is really needed' threads I was keeping an eye on training the minimum AL needed. As SL wouldn't show up until L12 for my guys, I did have to put the points into AL to get the spell(s) at L3. So I can confirm that your #s are correct for BoF, CB, & CoC in the first section. Edit: Also for Divine Fire in Blosk, a piercing crystal won't take down the barrier in Bart's room. So DB L2 is needed there. Slawbug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Bonam Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Capture Soul spellbook: confirmed works with 4 AL, 2x sage lore, 2x vahnatai lore Slawbug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 For Divine Fire, I wasn't sure if it was a L2 or L3 barrier. I think it might be L3. Since you *can* get L2 a lot easier than L3 (thanks Aimee!) that is a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt mikeprichard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Mass Heal should probably be moved down the list next to Minor Summon - it looks like you need Magi Clearance (in order to talk to Ostoth to learn the tablet's secret) to learn/access both spells. My party with 13 AL and 2 VL, but no access to the magi area, can't understand it - assuming it's the book just to the SE of Motrax near his "bed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ah, I wasn't sure which of those was the trigger. Looks like you don't need VL then. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt TriRodent Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 For Divine Fire, I wasn't sure if it was a L2 or L3 barrier. I think it might be L3. Since you *can* get L2 a lot easier than L3 (thanks Aimee!) that is a big difference. It's a L2 barrier. I got the 1st level from Pryn's tower & then eventually was able to fight my way up to see Aimee & pick up the 2nd level (it will be amusing to see the general's face in Ft. Emerald once I finally get around to killing Lemonjello, get offered DB as a reward & ask him "is that it?..."). Anyway, the barrier in Bart's room came right down & I was able to go in & read the L3 Divine Fire with no problem. Slawbug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Bonam Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Spray Acid spellbook: Cannot read it with 6 AL + 9 from sage lore + 4 vahnatai lore Works when I tried editing my AL up to 8. So either spray acid doesn't use SL/VL, or it needs a combined value of 21. Slawbug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Spray Acid spellbook: Cannot read it with 6 AL + 9 from sage lore + 4 vahnatai lore Works when I tried editing my AL up to 8. So either spray acid doesn't use SL/VL, or it needs a combined value of 21. It doesn't use sage lore. Probably not vahnatai lore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Thanks guys. I finalized the numbers for Spray Acid and moved Divine Fire up earlier. It's not right up there with getting DB#1 because you do need a Blue Pass (and a small fight that's harder than the Nephars and Sliths) to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug BlackDragon Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Where is the Icy Rain spellbook in Patrick's Tower? I've searched the entire ground-floor, and the basement is only accessible with TWO Crystal Souls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Bonam Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 In the tomb of demonslayer, look along the wall in the NW corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug BlackDragon Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 In the tomb of demonslayer, look along the wall in the NW corner. Ah, I figured it was down there... but if so, the list should be updated. That area requires two, not one, soul to access. Oh, and one other thing... what and where is this 'Ruined Town' mentioned in the list as the source of the Heal-spell? Some kind of external map-location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It's the ruined Vahnatai town below Formello. One of the crystal boxes behind the cracked wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug BlackDragon Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Ahhhh... I would not have guessed that. 's not the most descriptive name in the world. Thanks! Seems like my spell-collection is just about complete, then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks for the correction and feedback. Updated and moved the Icy Rain listing, and added better location descriptions for a few spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd ToeJam686 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hey thanks for the list, very helpful. But I'm having trouble with Protection at the Tower of Magi. I've completed just about every quest except for killing garzahd, but there's a third book that I still can't read. Any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not every quest. Talk to VIncent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish LINDYLOU Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks for this list! I'm still having trouble finding dispel barrier level 3 Where exactly is barrier tower? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks for this list! I'm still having trouble finding dispel barrier level 3 Where exactly is barrier tower? It's Pyrn's tower: you can only enter it from the Tower of Magi portal. If you don't have the right portal code yet, talk to Mahdavi in the Tower of Magi, accept her quest and ask her for advice so that she tells you to find Pyrn. Follow her instructions and you'll get the code you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It is inhabited by Pryn (sp?). You will need to use the teleporter in the tower of Magi to get there. I believe that it is listed on the teleporter list is Pryns tower, but the symbol shows barrier tower on the map. Sniped by Lilith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish LINDYLOU Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks guys, been there a few times. I found the switch for the east room now. What a sneaky place to put it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks guys, been there a few times. I found the switch for the east room now. What a sneaky place to put it! I just uploaded a screenshot because someone else in another thread asked the same question, so here you go. It's in the southwest, half-hidden by a bookshelf. edit: oh, i guess you found it and edited your post and I didn't notice. Oh well, there it is in case anyone else needs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish LINDYLOU Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks Lilith, I'm sure that screenshot will help a lot of people. Yes I edited the post after I found it. The fact that the place has two names; Pyrns Tower and Barrier Tower got me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora RLE Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'm not able to read the move mountains pedestal in the b1 serpent cult. I have a 13 AL and 1SL. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Do you have the Blessed Athame? You need it to break the seal on the spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora RLE Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Ha, nope. Don't have that one. Thanks. I'll see if I can find it. Don't want it spoiled just yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Nobear Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Ok what is this Mass Curing thing? S of Fort Dranlon, I cannot find any fountains, let alone a SW one. Is there a different fort you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 There's a spring to the east of Fort Dranlon that grants the Enlightened status if you drink from it. Before this status wears off, go to the house that's south and a little east of Fort Dranlon, enter and read the tablets inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (If you're struggling to find the house, it gets its own '?' on the map, IIRC.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 You can also find it easily by following the road south from Fort Dranlon until it branches off to the east and then following the eastern branch to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Nobear Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Thanks, I'd forgotten about that enlightened status. Gah, I didn't realize this would be that spoiler, but I asked for it. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora gkolsson Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 How do you get icy rain L:3? I found the hidden switch in Patrick's Tower demonslayer's tomb, but pushing it doesn't do anything!? Also, isn't the demonslayer's tomb now upstairs in A2:CS? It was in basement in the old version of A2. Also, in your Level 3 Spell list what does the abbreviation TU 8 mean? Thanks for the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 TU means Tool Use. In order to activate the hidden switch, the individual pushing it has to have 8 points of tool use. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora gkolsson Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I sent a character with a tool use of +8 into tomb and pressed the hidden switch. I got back the reply that you could hear stone grinding, but I don't see any change anywhere in tomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora gkolsson Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Okay when I sent the character with TU of 8 out of demonslayer tomb there was an opening at same level to the room with the spell. Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Sade Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I went through all the spell books individually, first with 0 AL, VL and SL (and without Athame or Lens) to figure out the minimum requirements, and then attempted various skill and item combinations to pinpoint the details. I did not bother verifying most of the values not questioned in the original chart, but other than that, I can say with confidence that everything in this list should be entirely accurate. | Spell.................| AL...| SL?..| VL?..| Location...........| VL:X...| Lens | Ath..| MM:X | DB:X | Other..................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Sanctification Ritual | .1...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Unshackle Mind........| .2...| SL...| VL...| Nephilim Castle....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Bolt of Fire..........| .3...| SL...| VL...| Aranea Web.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Call Beast............| .4...| SL...| VL...| Lizard Lair........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Cloak of Curses.......| .5...| SL...| VL...| Verdant Valley 2F..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Curing................| .5...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Heal..................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Ruins (Formello B1)| VL:1...| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Mass Curing...........| .9...| SL...| VL...| S of Fort Dranlon..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Use SW fountain........| | Haste.................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Almaria............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Dispel Barrier........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Portal Ritual.........| .2...| --...| --...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Patrick's Quest.......| --...| --...| --...| Patrick's Tower....| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................| | Summon Shade..........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | War Blessing..........| 11...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Domination............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dharmon............| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| DB:1 | Boat...................| | Cloak of Bolts........| .6...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Minor Summons.........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | Magi...................| | Mass Heal.............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Ostoth.................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Summon Aid............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Nephar Fortress....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Minor Heal............| .5...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult.......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Smite.................| .7...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Daze..................| .8...| SL...| VL...| Coven Cave.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Vahnatai Secrets......| --...| --...| --...| Coven Cave.........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Ward of Elements......| 11...| SL...| VL...| Gnass..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| Quest..................| | Howl of Terror........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Trapped Hall.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................| | Call the Storm........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cotra..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | or TU:12...............| | Divine Fire...........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Blosk..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Lightning Spray.......| 10...| SL...| VL...| Solberg's Tower....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| (Crown)................| | Move Mountains........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult B1....| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Fireblast.............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Erika's Tower......| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| (Magi).................| | Slow..................| .6...| SL...| VL...| Lair of Athron.....| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | DB:1 | --.....................| | Ward of Thoughts......| .8...| SL...| VL...| Giant's Cave.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | --...| --.....................| | Pass Statue...........| --...| --...| --...| Ominous Crypt......| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Resistance Crystal....| 13...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Scroll and Crystal....| --...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Capture Soul..........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dark Tunnel........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| |-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------| | Spray Acid............| .8...| --...| --...| Tower of Elderan...| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Return Life...........| 14...| SL...| VL...| Empire Archives....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | TU:11..................| | Protection............| .9...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................| | Simulacrum............| 11...| SL...| VL...| Pyrog's Cave.......| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................| | Cloak of Blades.......| .9...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Jekknol).......| | Blink.................| .7...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Vyvnas)........| | Icy Rain..............| 10...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower B1.| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | 2 Souls, TU:8 on one PC| | Vahnatai Lore +1......| --...| --...| --...| Ornotha Ziggurat...| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................| | Ward of Steel.........| 11...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Caffren).......| | Arcane Summon.........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Divine Retribution....| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................| | Cloak of the Arcane...| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Divine Restoration....| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................| | Emergency Spell #1....| 13...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| MM:3 | --...| --.....................| | Emergency Spell #2....| 15...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| TU:15..................| | Arcane Blow...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................| | Divine Host...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................| Slawbug and TrueAlcove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kyshakk Koan Juan Carlo Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I can't find level 3 blink....where is it in the crystal shrine? Edit: Never mind....one of the crystals teaches you 1 spell for each crystal you return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Juan Carlo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I can't find mass curing. Is the fountain SW of Dranlon on the overland map? Or is it in a dungeon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I can't find mass curing. Is the fountain SW of Dranlon on the overland map? Or is it in a dungeon? It's outdoors. Follow the road to the south of Fort Dranlon until it branches off to the east, then follow the branch until it leads to a house full of unreadable stone tablets. To read them and learn Mass Curing, you need to gain the Enlightened status effect from a pool to the northeast (follow the northern cave wall east from Fort Dranlon and it shouldn't be too hard to find). Why the spell list says SW, I don't know. Juan Carlo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora TAICHIHERO Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ware is level 3 move mountains i cant seem to find it? Please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Ware is level 3 move mountains i cant seem to find it? Please help. It's in a hidden switch area of the Serpent Cult dungeon northeast of the Tower of Magi. Lower level in the northeast, but you need the Blessed Athame to open the spell book. Welcome to Spiderweb Software. Please leave your sanity at the door. Then answer questions three, before the other side you see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Xander77 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Could you add a little explanation below for shorthands like VL:X...| Lens | Ath..| MM:X | DB:X | ? I still have no idea what "MM:X" means, and I'm at the endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 VL Vahnatai Lore level needed to read spell book Lens - get in Patrick's Tower as quest reward Ath Blessed Athame to open spell book MM Move Mountains ritual to reach spell book and level DB Dispel Barrier spell to reach spell book and level TrueAlcove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Xander77 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ah, then I just blanked out on that one. Still, that's a good clarification list that should be appended to the initial post. How exactly to I get to the other floor of Patrick's tower? I've got two souls, all the DB and MM and TU in the world, and I'm not entirely sure what I'm missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Talking to the right people starting with Patrick, King Micah, and Rone to get the permission to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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