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Posted 25 January 2015 - 04:03 PM #1 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Sade tested everything and put all of his data into Slarty's chart.  Thanks, Sade!  This should show the minimum requirements to reach and use all level 3 spellbooks.

| Spell.................| AL...| SL?..| VL?..| Location...........| VL:X...| Lens | Ath..| MM:X | DB:X | Other..................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Sanctification Ritual | .1...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................|
| Unshackle Mind........| .2...| SL...| VL...| Nephilim Castle....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Bolt of Fire..........| .3...| SL...| VL...| Aranea Web.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Call Beast............| .4...| SL...| VL...| Lizard Lair........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Cloak of Curses.......| .5...| SL...| VL...| Verdant Valley 2F..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Curing................| .5...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................|
| Heal..................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Ruins (Formello B1)| VL:1...| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................|
| Mass Curing...........| .9...| SL...| VL...| S of Fort Dranlon..| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Use SW fountain........|
| Haste.................| .9...| SL...| VL...| Almaria............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Dispel Barrier........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................|
| Portal Ritual.........| .2...| --...| --...| Barrier Tower......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................|
| Patrick's Quest.......| --...| --...| --...| Patrick's Tower....| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Magi...................|
| Summon Shade..........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................|
| War Blessing..........| 11...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower....| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| --...| Quest..................|
| Domination............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dharmon............| --.....| Lens | --...| --...| DB:1 | Boat...................|
| Cloak of Bolts........| .6...| SL...| VL...| Formello...........| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................|
| Minor Summons.........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | Magi...................|
| Mass Heal.............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cave of Motrax.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Ostoth.................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Summon Aid............| .8...| SL...| VL...| Nephar Fortress....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Minor Heal............| .5...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult.......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Smite.................| .7...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Daze..................| .8...| SL...| VL...| Coven Cave.........| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Vahnatai Secrets......| --...| --...| --...| Coven Cave.........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Ward of Elements......| 11...| SL...| VL...| Gnass..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| Quest..................|
| Howl of Terror........| .9...| SL...| VL...| Trapped Hall.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | --...| --.....................|
| Call the Storm........| .8...| SL...| VL...| Cotra..............| --.....| --...| --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | or TU:12...............|
| Divine Fire...........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Blosk..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | --.....................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Lightning Spray.......| 10...| SL...| VL...| Solberg's Tower....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| (Crown)................|
| Move Mountains........| 10...| SL...| VL...| Serpent Cult B1....| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................|
| Fireblast.............| 12...| SL...| VL...| Erika's Tower......| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| (Magi).................|
| Slow..................| .6...| SL...| VL...| Lair of Athron.....| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | DB:1 | --.....................|
| Ward of Thoughts......| .8...| SL...| VL...| Giant's Cave.......| --.....| --...| --...| MM:2 | --...| --.....................|
| Pass Statue...........| --...| --...| --...| Ominous Crypt......| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Resistance Crystal....| 13...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:1 | --.....................|
| Scroll and Crystal....| --...| --...| --...| Chasm Fortress.....| VL:1...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Capture Soul..........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Dark Tunnel........| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
|-----------------------|------|------|------|--------------------|--------|------|------|------|------|------------------------|
| Spray Acid............| .8...| --...| --...| Tower of Elderan...| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Return Life...........| 14...| SL...| VL...| Empire Archives....| --.....| --...| --...| --...| DB:2 | TU:11..................|
| Protection............| .9...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Quest..................|
| Simulacrum............| 11...| SL...| VL...| Pyrog's Cave.......| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| --.....................|
| Cloak of Blades.......| .9...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Jekknol).......|
| Blink.................| .7...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Vyvnas)........|
| Icy Rain..............| 10...| SL...| VL...| Patrick's Tower B1.| --.....| Lens | --...| MM:1 | DB:2 | 2 Souls, TU:8 on one PC|
| Vahnatai Lore +1......| --...| --...| --...| Ornotha Ziggurat...| --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| DB:1 | --.....................|
| Ward of Steel.........| 11...| --...| --...| Shrine of Crystals | --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 1 Soul (Caffren).......|
| Arcane Summon.........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................|
| Divine Retribution....| 12...| SL...| VL...| Olgai..............| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| 3 Souls................|
| Cloak of the Arcane...| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................|
| Divine Restoration....| 10...| SL...| VL...| Tower of Magi......| --.....| --...| --...| --...| --...| Portal.................|
| Emergency Spell #1....| 13...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| MM:3 | --...| --.....................|
| Emergency Spell #2....| 15...| --...| --...| Garzahd's Fortress | --.....| --...| Ath..| --...| --...| TU:15..................|
| Arcane Blow...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................|
| Divine Host...........| 12...| SL...| VL...| Castle.............| VL:2...| --...| --...| --...| --...| Garzahd................|

Suggested raw Arcane Lore for different points:
Demo area & Dark Waters - 5
After reaching the Tower of Magi - 7 plus 2 Vahnatai Lore
After receiving Magi Clearance - 10 plus 2 Vahnatai Lore
When finally undertaking the Crystal Souls quest sequences - 13 (plus Vahnatai Lore)

Spoiler - Chart before Sade's additions

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 04:04 PM #2 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Slarty, awesome work putting this together; this is exactly what we need. Is there any way you could fix the column alignment though?

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 04:06 PM #3 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Reload.  But I'm impressed that you saw this in the first 5 seconds it was posted :)
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Posted 25 January 2015 - 04:20 PM #4 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Oooooh, purdy. And yeah, I'm not obsessively checking these forums every 15 minutes, or anything crazy like that. Again, awesome work - I'll try to contribute as I can, assuming I can confirm anything 100% (probably by cheating AL/SL values before opening books - except I've already got 2 VL on my party, and I don't know how to cheat-remove those VL points, so my input might not be as useful as could be).

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 07:23 PM #5 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

On my latest run through I wanted to make sure that I had Cloak of Curses at L3 before heading down the river.  Having also been following the 'SL/AL, what is really needed' threads I was keeping an eye on training the minimum AL needed.  As SL wouldn't show up until L12 for my guys, I did have to put the points into AL to get the spell(s) at L3. So I can confirm that your #s are correct for BoF, CB, & CoC in the first section.

Edit:  Also for Divine Fire in Blosk, a piercing crystal won't take down the barrier in Bart's room.  So DB L2 is needed there.

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 07:54 PM #6 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Capture Soul spellbook: confirmed works with 4 AL, 2x sage lore, 2x vahnatai lore

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:03 PM #7 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

For Divine Fire, I wasn't sure if it was a L2 or L3 barrier.  I think it might be L3.  Since you *can* get L2 a lot easier than L3 (thanks Aimee!) that is a big difference.
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Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:11 PM #8 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Mass Heal should probably be moved down the list next to Minor Summon - it looks like you need Magi Clearance (in order to talk to Ostoth to learn the tablet's secret) to learn/access both spells. My party with 13 AL and 2 VL, but no access to the magi area, can't understand it - assuming it's the book just to the SE of Motrax near his "bed."

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 05:18 AM #9 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Ah, I wasn't sure which of those was the trigger.  Looks like you don't need VL then.  Thanks!
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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:54 PM #10 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

View PostSlartibus, on 25 January 2015 - 08:03 PM, said:

For Divine Fire, I wasn't sure if it was a L2 or L3 barrier.  I think it might be L3.  Since you *can* get L2 a lot easier than L3 (thanks Aimee!) that is a big difference.

It's a L2 barrier.  I got the 1st level from Pryn's tower & then eventually was able to fight my way up to see Aimee & pick up the 2nd level (it will be amusing to see the general's face in Ft. Emerald once I finally get around to killing Lemonjello, get offered DB as a reward & ask him "is that it?...").  Anyway, the barrier in Bart's room came right down & I was able to go in & read the L3 Divine Fire with no problem.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 12:04 AM #11 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Spray Acid spellbook: Cannot read it with 6 AL + 9 from sage lore + 4 vahnatai lore

Works when I tried editing my AL up to 8.

So either spray acid doesn't use SL/VL, or it needs a combined value of 21.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 12:23 AM #12 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

View PostBonam, on 28 January 2015 - 12:04 AM, said:

Spray Acid spellbook: Cannot read it with 6 AL + 9 from sage lore + 4 vahnatai lore

Works when I tried editing my AL up to 8.

So either spray acid doesn't use SL/VL, or it needs a combined value of 21.

It doesn't use sage lore. Probably not vahnatai lore either.

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Posted 28 January 2015 - 05:42 AM #13 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks guys.  I finalized the numbers for Spray Acid and moved Divine Fire up earlier.  It's not right up there with getting DB#1 because you do need a Blue Pass (and a small fight that's harder than the Nephars and Sliths) to get there.
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 10:34 AM #14 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Where is the Icy Rain spellbook in Patrick's Tower? I've searched the entire ground-floor, and the basement is only accessible with TWO Crystal Souls...

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 10:41 AM #15 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

In the tomb of demonslayer, look along the wall in the NW corner.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:06 AM #16 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

View PostBonam, on 04 February 2015 - 10:41 AM, said:

In the tomb of demonslayer, look along the wall in the NW corner.

Ah, I figured it was down there... but if so, the list should be updated. That area requires two, not one, soul to access.

Oh, and one other thing... what and where is this 'Ruined Town' mentioned in the list as the source of the Heal-spell? Some kind of external map-location?

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 11:50 AM #17 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

It's the ruined Vahnatai town below Formello. One of the crystal boxes behind the cracked wall.

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 12:09 PM #18 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Ahhhh... I would not have guessed that. 's not the most descriptive name in the world. :p Thanks! Seems like my spell-collection is just about complete, then...

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Posted 04 February 2015 - 01:59 PM #19 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks for the correction and feedback.  Updated and moved the Icy Rain listing, and added better location descriptions for a few spells.
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 07:53 PM #20 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Hey thanks for the list, very helpful.

But I'm having trouble with Protection at the Tower of Magi.  I've completed just about every quest except for killing garzahd, but there's a third book that I still can't read.  Any help?
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Posted 04 February 2015 - 08:13 PM #21 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Not every quest.  Talk to VIncent.
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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:02 AM #22 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks for this list!  I'm still having  trouble finding dispel barrier level 3  Where exactly is barrier tower?

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:08 AM #23 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

View PostLINDYLOU, on 05 February 2015 - 04:02 AM, said:

Thanks for this list!  I'm still having  trouble finding dispel barrier level 3  Where exactly is barrier tower?

It's Pyrn's tower: you can only enter it from the Tower of Magi portal. If you don't have the right portal code yet, talk to Mahdavi in the Tower of Magi, accept her quest and ask her for advice so that she tells you to find Pyrn. Follow her instructions and you'll get the code you need.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:09 AM #24 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

It is inhabited by Pryn (sp?).  You will need to use the teleporter in the tower of  Magi to get there.  I believe that it is listed on the teleporter list is Pryns tower, but the symbol shows barrier tower on the map.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:31 AM #25 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks guys,  been there a few times. I found the switch for the east room now. What a sneaky place to put it!

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:43 AM #26 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

View PostLINDYLOU, on 05 February 2015 - 04:31 AM, said:

Thanks guys,  been there a few times. I found the switch for the east room now. What a sneaky place to put it!

I just uploaded a screenshot because someone else in another thread asked the same question, so here you go. It's in the southwest, half-hidden by a bookshelf.

edit: oh, i guess you found it and edited your post and I didn't notice. Oh well, there it is in case anyone else needs it.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 05:18 AM #27 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks Lilith,

I'm sure that screenshot will help a lot of people.  Yes I edited the post after I found it.

The fact that the place has two names; Pyrns Tower and Barrier Tower got me as well.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:24 AM #28 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

I'm not able to read the move mountains pedestal in the b1 serpent cult. I have a 13 AL and 1SL.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:31 AM #29 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Do you have the Blessed Athame? You need it to break the seal on the spell.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:52 AM #30 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Ha, nope. Don't have that one. Thanks.

I'll see if I can find it. Don't want it spoiled just yet :)

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:12 PM #31 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Ok what is this Mass Curing thing? S of Fort Dranlon, I cannot find any fountains, let alone a SW one. Is there a different fort you mean?

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 01:05 AM #32 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

There's a spring to the east of Fort Dranlon that grants the Enlightened status if you drink from it. Before this status wears off, go to the house that's south and a little east of Fort Dranlon, enter and read the tablets inside.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 03:17 AM #33 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

(If you're struggling to find the house, it gets its own '?' on the map, IIRC.)

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 05:31 AM #34 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

You can also find it easily by following the road south from Fort Dranlon until it branches off to the east and then following the eastern branch to the end.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 09:26 AM #35 A2:CS - Level 3 Spell / Arcane Lore Location List

Thanks, I'd forgotten about that enlightened status. Gah, I didn't realize this would be that spoiler, but I asked for it. Thank you!




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