Garrulous Glaahk ixfd64 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This is probably a dumb question, but here goes: I've never played Avernum before, but I really want to try it soon. As we know, the original Exile games allowed up to six characters per party. While the first Avernum trilogy is supposed to be a remake of the Exile series, the screenshots for the Avernum games show only four characters. So my question is, are parties in Avernum limited to four characters? Or are only four of them shown at a time? If it's the former case, then has it been compensated in any way (such as more powerful abilities)? I'm sure there were situations where it would help to have six characters rather than four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 You're limited to four characters, yeah. Of course six is always better than four, but four is plenty enough to make it through the games with little difficulty, because, as part of the rewrite, the games were rebalanced for four PCs. You can still get one of each of the major character types (fighter, rogue, mage, priest), and there is opportunity enough to have dual-skilled characters, so you never really miss the extra two characters. If you're looking at playing these games for the first time, you might also want to consider playing Avernum: Escape from the Pit, which has just been released for Mac, and is currently in testing for Windows and iPad (and is probably close to release for the latter, if not the former); expect them around April at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 good thing in old games that summons aren't as limited as in newer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Summons didn't get limited until Avernum 5. That's when Jeff started asking beta testers how they were playing boss encounters and didn't like the answers: use terror wands to make the boss cower in fear while you attack with impunity -- now they have higher mental resistance summon an army of monsters -- limit two summons per Avernum party run a glass cannon where health comes from spells and not endurance -- essence armor no longer provided health, augmentation spell was removed in Avernum 6 and Avernum: Escape from the Pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ixfd64 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Originally Posted By: oh, mother You're limited to four characters, yeah. Of course six is always better than four, but four is plenty enough to make it through the games with little difficulty, because, as part of the rewrite, the games were rebalanced for four PCs. You can still get one of each of the major character types (fighter, rogue, mage, priest), and there is opportunity enough to have dual-skilled characters, so you never really miss the extra two characters. Thanks for the information; that's what I thought. By the way, has Simulacrum been removed or nerfed in the later games? That was the most overpowered summoning spell, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 simuc was removed on 2nd trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yes. It remains to be seen whether some version of capture/recall soul will appear in the remake of A2, but it doesn't seem likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slarti Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 N:R turned it into a duplication spell. That seems plausible. The REAL question, of course, is whether or not Minddueling will make an appearance and whether or not it will be the easiest way to deal with Garzahd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 hack and slash ftw!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S The REAL question, of course, is whether or not Minddueling will make an appearance and whether or not it will be the easiest way to deal with Garzahd. I could never get the hang of Mindduel; I always had to kill Garzahd through combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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