Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 As I recall, feel free to correct me, Wound caused physical damage whereas Smite is cold (magical) damage. NPC's would often have resistance to magical or cold damage, but were poorly armored, making physical damage attacks more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 No, Wound causes magical damage. It's just unblockable magic damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Thank you for setting that straight. I just remember that the main difference was that it was unblockable, making it infinitely useful. Weak damage, but better than nothing, and IMHO better than bows or thrown weapons. BTW, bows and thrown do improve in the Avernum games, but I was never fond of them. Must have the bad taste Exile gave me of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I always made enough of a use of bows to enjoy them. That said, I really didn't like it when the later Avernums dropped Crossbows from the roster. Trashing the darts and slings from Exile that no one uses was all fine and good, but taking out Crossbows in favor of just... BIGGER bows? ... What, couldn't Jeff get anyone to do a worthy updated Crossbow graphic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I stand (or rather sit) corrected. Crossbows did definitely pack enough of a punch, especially when using magical bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 isn't it amazing how often the wound vs. smite argument hijacks threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It's happened twice. And hopefully it will never happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S It's happened twice. And hopefully it will never happen again. The next time it will happen, it will be the theme of the thread. I talk, of course, of the next Deathmatch thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 DEATHMATCH TOURNEY #3 COMPETITORS: - Goldenking - Deathmatch ROUND 1.1 BRIMMING BYSTANDER vs. DEATHY OF DEATHIES... FIGHT! NO CONTEST... FINISH HIM! BYE BYE GOLEM. JUDGE'S RULING: DEATHMATCH GOLDENKING IS ELIMINATED DEATHMATCH HAS WON THE TOURNAMENT DEATHMATCH IS CROWNED CHAMPION OF THE THIRD DEATHMATCH BY IMBAN(WHO IS STILL EVERYONE)/ICSHI(WHO RETROACTIVELY DID NOT DIE AND THEN RETRIOACTIVITOUSLY RE-RETROACTIVELY DIES AFTER THE CROWNING)/SLARTIPHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Oh look what you did, Goldenking - he used the font and everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 That sounds like the caption to a New Yorker cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Originally Posted By: Goldenking As Alorael said, it cuts off just past Mertis. You can get to the Spiral, and explore in the Honeycomb for a while, but you can't get to the Tower of Magi. That always really disappointed me when I was playing the demo. I thought Exile 1 did not have an accessible Tower of Magi, but I guess it's very likely I'm mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Exile 1 did not. Exile 1 and Avernum 1 had demo barriers in different places. In Exile 1, you could explore the entire eastern 50% of the map, up to and including Almaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I am aware of the much larger demo area in Exile 1, yes. I wasn't talking about demo restrictions, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think you meant the opposite of what you said, Slarty. In E1, not only is the ToM accessible, it's plot-essential and it's available quite early in the demo. —Alorael, who used its random item seller to acquire a magic spear long before he was supposed to. Then he bought a bronze halberd and used that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Yeah. I meant that it did not did not have an accessible ToM, which is about as unclear as I could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 That's odd, because I remember not being able to get to it in the demo. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora zeric7x Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Excited about this game. I played the original exile and avernum. Cant wait for it to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish eXtremeJeep Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Originally Posted By: zeric7x Excited about this game. I played the original exile and avernum. Cant wait for it to come out. It is almost the end of Nov in Q4, 2011. I would like to get a definitive date to when the Mac version will be released. I am rather excited to have my GF play this game since she has not played any of the great RPG's (In my opinion) but loves RPG's. And since I know someone will ask, I consider the best three RPG's of all time to be (in no particular order): 1: Ultima 7 collection (parts 1 & 2) 2: Avernum (I have fav's among each sequels but we will stick with the original) 3: Elder Scrolls III Morrowind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Jeff isn't big on definitive dates. It'll come out within the next month, I would imagine. He has guaranteed this year, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Typically the fall release is around Thanksgiving. Sometimes this is before Thanksgiving. More recently it has been just after Thanksgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Jeff has said Christmastime for the release. I know he still is waiting for reports on the endgame fights to adjust the balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 That's fine. I'd rather wait and end up with a Hawthorne fight that fun and engaging, rather than another Redbeard, which was like gnawing through a cinder block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Ociporus Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: Necris Omega That's fine. I'd rather wait and end up with a Hawthorne fight that fun and engaging, rather than another Redbeard, which was like gnawing through a cinder block. Brilliant, concise description of Avadon. Poignant. Still doesn't make it any easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Avernum is more like cutting down the tallest tree in the forest with a herring bone. You know you will eventually will win the fight, some day, if your hands don't develop carpal tunnel syndrome, and you have a spare keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Kreador Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Avernum is more like cutting down the tallest tree in the forest with a herring bone. You know you will eventually will win the fight, some day, if your hands don't develop carpal tunnel syndrome, and you have a spare keyboard. Is that a pickled herring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hopefully it's more of a red one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Avernum is more like cutting down the tallest tree in the forest with a herring bone. You know you will eventually will win the fight, some day, if your hands don't develop carpal tunnel syndrome, and you have a spare keyboard. This is kind of depressing. I hope that's not really what it's like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 It depends upon how you build your party. There was this one fight with all spell casters versus runewarded monsters that was an effort to wear them down before I wore down from repeatedly typing in attacks. Besides Slarty you were the one to go through Avernum 4 with a high evasion character fighting chitrachs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm not sure what you're suggesting. The high evasion strategy ended up being unsuccessful for A4 -- besides its vulnerability to AoE attacks, it just couldn't keep up with enemy hit rates in the second half of the game. And I think you are aware of my hatred for A4 style chitrachs and 200+ enemy counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I tried to find your posts about fighting those chitrachs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Ranting thread Counting thread - I'd forgotten this started out as a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 ... Is it strange that Jeff's momentary presence in the "Who's Online" box has me all excited and curious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Well, he's finished the hintbook, so it's probably that. Unless he's going to keep appearing online sporadically in order to whip up some hysteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It might have been in response to a member's email about fixing bugs in Avadon. Jeff's wife, Mariann, also uses that account so you need to check the signature to see who posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Mike B. Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 There is a posting on Blues News tonight about the Mac version in Dec and iPad/Windows in April 2012. -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish blackwight Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 This is going to be released on the 31st, isn't it? Last time I waited on something from spidweb, it came out on the last possible day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila dwimordene Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Originally Posted By: blackwight This is going to be released on the 31st, isn't it? I have every confidence it will come out. Just. In. Time. For the week I'm taking off work for the Christmas holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Other posts on the forum indicate roughly a week till release. So I'd say by the end of next week, you should have your game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I am sort of hoping that the game will come out on the 21st, since that's the last day I have finals. But at least that way a few bugs will be filed by the time I buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Arch-Mage Solberg Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Originally Posted By: Excalibur I am sort of hoping that the game will come out on the 21st, since that's the last day I have finals. Forget your finals...that's my 31st birthday! Fingers crossed. Post #639 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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