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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:53 PM #1 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Avadon: The Black Fortress

unofficial
Frequently Asked Questions
(with maps!)


General Questions

What’s with these locks that are “too complicated to be picked”?

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I’ve completed a quest. Now what?

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The person who gave me a quest has disappeared!

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How do I get past those runed doors?

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How do I get access to new zones?

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How do I get back to Avadon?

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I can't find [insert object or place].

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I can't defeat [insert enemy].

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Avadon & Environs

WARNING! Maps contain spoilers!

NOTE: The site hosting the maps goes down from time to time, so if the links aren't working, for now you can access a backup of the annotated maps at http://nikkis-nook.h...Maps/index.html, generously hosted by Nikki (generously hosted by Niemand). Thanks guys! (No, I am not changing all of the individual links just yet, you should be able to find what you're looking for from the index.)

In the early areas, all "treasure" is noted if it has any utility, even if it has no sale value. Later maps will be less inclusive. The first two maps linked to below function as a sort of a walk-through of the tutorial if you look at them closely.

  Avadon Main Level  
  Avadon Dungeons    
  Redbeard's Tower



How do I escape from the dungeon in the tutorial? The doors are locked.

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How do I find Quennel/unlock the door to his cell?

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How do I get the key to the Secure Cells?

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Where is Spiridon?

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I have the “Clear the Stacks” quest, but I can’t find the stacks.

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Where the heck is Abi?

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Where is Fabron?

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Where is Brasula?

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I met Eye Leira at the beginning of the game, but now she’s disappeared.

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One of my companions has hared off on his/her own, and I don’t know what to do next.

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The Kva

  Goldcrag  - Note that not all areas will be accessible right away.


I have a quest to get Blue Ore in the Jhereth Deeps, but I can't seem to go there.

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  Kva Lands  

Where is Berak's Caravan?

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How do I fulfill the "Deal with Tartam" Quest?

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Where are the Dire Wolves?

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Where is Nightshade?

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  Zhethron's Aerie    

How do I get through the gate to the dragon?

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How do I get Ahmed's Libram out of the dragon's library?

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How do I get access to the records room to find out Ryozo's intentions?

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Where is Keeper Ilhan?

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Can I get into the third treasure chest in Zhethron's lair?

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How do I get to the treasure in the middle of the lava pool?

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  Wretch Warrens  

Where is Neray?

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Where are Thara's papers?

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I fought my way back to the surface, but I can't seem to escape the Warrens.

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  Jhereth Deeps - locations of Blue Ore are marked  

Where is Neray, again?

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The map shows a trapdoor in the Jhereth Deeps, where no trapdoor is. What gives?

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I didn't get the Blue Ore quest until after doing this area, and now I can't get back into part of the Ogres' lair.

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OK, so where's the blue ore now?

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Is this where I'm supposed to get the Titan's War Club?

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  White Plains (Sevilin's Quest)  

How do I find Cahil in the mine?

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Khemeria


  Dhorl Stead  

No-one will talk to me, and they won't let me into the castle. What now?

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How do I get to the Dhorla Woods? I have quests there, but I can't seem to go anywhere from Dhorl Stead.

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Is that the Corrupted Circle in the northern part of the zone?

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  Dhorla Woods  

Where is Shavon?

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Shavon ran ahead and disappeared. Where is he?

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Where is the Widow of Bones?

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  The Beast's Woods  

Where is the Beast's lair?

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Where is the ogre Skulltaker?

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  Ogrhym'Tor  


Moritz'Kri fled the throne room and now I can't find him.

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OK, I found him and he got away again. Now where is he?

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How do I get to Carsta'Arl (third mission to Khemeria)? All the gates are shut.

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Lady Antje is
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  Jarlswood  

Where's Theresia? All the paths are blocked.

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OK, I found the Shaman's hall, but the door is barred. What now?

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Do I have to spare the warriors?

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Kellemderiel/Holklanda

Where do I find Orian?

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I have a quest to find Hand Gavin. What area is he in?

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How do I get to the Beraza Pits?

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How do I get to the Bandit Roads?

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  Castle Vebeaux  

For more info, see "End-game Questions"

I'm supposed to meet Shigaz. Where is he?

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  Beraza Woods  

Where is the smugglers' tunnel for the "Vebeaux Tunnel" quest?

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Help! The Sorceress Shade is impossible to beat!

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  Beraza Pits  

I've been following Orian around - is something supposed to happen?

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How do I kill the drake?

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  Trail of the Drake  (Nathalie's Quest) -- Warning, the Drake's Lair is spoiler-heavy!

How do I get past the infinite stairs?

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I can’t figure out this circle riddle.

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Is this where I get the Drake Egg?

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  Bandit Roads  

Where are the Hidden Ogres?

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Where is Herenus?

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Where is the Drake Egg?

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End-Game Questions


  Beraza Deep Woods  

I can't beat the
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What am I doing wrong?

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  Castle Vebeaux: Endgame  

The gate to
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What's with the empty box?

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I've dealt with the
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but I still can't find the exit.

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  Avadon  

How do I kill
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How do I kill
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NOTE: The site hosting the maps goes down from time to time, so if the links aren't working, for now you can access a backup of the annotated maps at http://nikkis-nook.h...Maps/index.html, generously hosted by Nikki (generously hosted by Niemand). Thanks guys! (No, I am not changing all of the individual links just yet, you should be able to find what you're looking for from the index.)

Edited by Jerakeen, 22 July 2013 - 06:45 PM.
Changed links to new site.


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Posted 23 July 2011 - 06:30 AM #2 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Since this was posted, people have already asked questions answered on this page. Perhaps we should stick it in Strategy Central?

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 06:54 AM #3 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

It is in Strategy Central, has been almost since I first posted it.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 07:50 AM #4 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Players don't read.
"I don't know how we can ever repay you!" - Rescued damsel in distress
"Oh, I'm sure we can think of something .... How much gold do you have?" - "Hero"

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:07 AM #5 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

And readers don't play.

And I foolishly assumed that people would look for help before asking. Silly me.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:25 AM #6 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

"Can I get into the third treasure chest in Zhethron's lair?"

I often wondered about the "why the hell there's one more chest and not a related quest?" question. Now I can rest in peace :-) thanks Turtle, great work here!
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Posted 26 October 2011 - 08:14 PM #7 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Im stuck in this game. I have spoken with both runner faiga and runner kellen and neither gives me the dialogue option to find the woods. I have tried talking to them with and without hunter salem in front, is there anyway to get past this glitch?

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 08:36 PM #8 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Have you talked to Moritz'Kri yet?

—Alorael, who recommends trying to go and pay your respects to Lord Carsta'Arl if you haven't already. Getting the cold shoulder from the local leadership will make everyone like you more.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:33 AM #9 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

After Moritz'Kri refuses to let you into the castle, one of your options with Kellen should be "I have come to Khemeria to hunt a certain beast." Choose that, then choose "How can I find it?"

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:13 AM #10 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

I dont get any of those options, i only hear them say hunter salom wont let me in. I might have said something the 1st time i shouldnt have said. is there any way to edit the game and force the dialogue, i dont want to restart as there are no saves.

edit- where is moritz-kri's lord exactly?
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 09:43 AM #11 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Carsta'Arl is in Oghrym'Tor, the fortress northeast of Dhorl Stead. You got to meet Moritz'Kri outside, but you don't get in until later.

Can you give the exact dialogue that you get while talking to them? Are you sure you're talking to them while Hunter Salom is no longer in Dhorl Stead?

—Alorael, who doesn't think this is a very plausible bug. If you think it really is a script error, you can try uninstalling and reinstalling the game, but it's really probably something that you aren't triggering quite right.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 03:27 PM #12 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

ive tried it numerous times with different dialogue, nothing comes up about the beast. when you say salom in dhorl stead, do you mean he has to be off of the entire map?

edit: if i uninstall will my saves stay?
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:17 PM #13 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

The saves are stored elsewhere and aren't affected.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:10 PM #14 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

If you told Salom or Moritz'kri why you're really there, Kellen won't help you no matter what. But I believe Faiga still will. Try her.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:52 AM #15 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

I am at my wits end and yes i told him. I just want to get through this part of the game to move on. Is there a cheat to unlock the woods? This is getting frustrating.

Edit-i just tried faiga and she wont. I give up.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:07 PM #16 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

got older save before that area?

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:08 PM #17 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

No unfortunately i dont, the game didnt autosave.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 01:51 PM #18 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Could you please post the exact dialogue options that you see when you try to talk to Faiga, and the response you get when you try to ask her for information? That would help me figure out what the problem is, and if it can be resolved by resetting flags.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:05 PM #19 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

runner faiga-
1-"Why do you live out here?
2-I am in need of information.

Those are the only two dialogs i get and when i pick one, they connect with each other and have no relative info to the beast or the woods.

That is faiga, kellen cant work because i told moritzkri. I really hope that i dont have to start over as ive never beaten the game but did get close.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:15 PM #20 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

A. When you pick #2, do you see this reply?

Quote:
She looks down. _I would help you. There is nothing to be gained by resisting Avadon. However, it would be better if you went to Lord Carsta'Arl. He would be annoyed if I was presumptuous enough to deal with you before he saw you.

B. If so, do you then have this option?

Quote:
I have been to Oghrym'Tor. I was turned away at the gates.

If the answer to A is yes and the answer to B is no, then you have to go to the castle gates and talk to Moritz'Kri, the old mage that is standing there. Demand to be let into the castle. After he refuses, return to Faiga and try again.

If the answer to the A is no, please tell me what she does say.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:25 PM #21 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Thank you turtle, i can now play the game again. Very helpful of you!!
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:49 AM #22 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Stuck in Zhethron's Aerie. I killed all the Wretches In the area with the three cattle gates, but Harissa does not move to unlock the two doors.
I ran around multiple times in the Zhethron's Aerie map but there are no wretches left.
what am I missing here?

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:54 AM #23 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

If you reported back to her and everybody moved back into the aerie, the doors are now unlocked. Just try them.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:03 AM #24 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

I'm just stupid. I wrongly tried to report back to ilhan instead of Harissa. Once I reported back to her everything works.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 01:50 PM #25 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

I am a bit lost with the Hunt the Wizard quest. Can you tell me where to look to find the Wizard and maybe who it is?

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 03:39 PM #26 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Welcome to the boards, Cloudseer!


Originally Posted By: Cloudseer
I am a bit lost with the Hunt the Wizard quest. Can you tell me where to look to find the Wizard and maybe who it is?




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Posted 06 September 2012 - 05:21 PM #27 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Thanks very much for the help and the welcome.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:01 PM #28 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Where is Theresia (after finding Jennel)?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:40 PM #29 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

That's one of the questions in the faq. Why don't you click on the spoiler and find out? If you still can't find her, click on the Jarlswood link to see the map.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:26 PM #30 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Thanks.
I was wondering why my google search brought me here when I did't find it the first time I checked.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:04 PM #31 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

You're welcome. By the way, it's really hard to read that color text.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:00 PM #32 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

Would Cyan be better or worse? I like to keep my txt of a blue when I can.
By the way, it's very unfortunate that I have to invest in skills I don't want just to invest in the skills that I do want. This was decided on for difficulty purposes, I take it?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:11 PM #33 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

We ask that you keep your text to the standard black on Spiderweb. It's just one of our customs to keep the color quotient down.

I don't think the decision was really made for balance. It was just what the designer thought was best. It's quite possible that the tree won't work that way in the sequels; it's been a source of frustration for many people, and it's also not the way that the Avernum skill tree works.

—Alorael, who at least hopes for a change. The current system also really limits end-game builds. But that may be part of the point. One of Jeff's goals is to keep players from hurting themselves with terrible builds.

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:24 PM #34 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

I have been unable to access Avadon annotated maps. Is this a temp problem or is the site no longer available?

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:07 PM #35 Avadon FAQ - Spoilers mostly hidden

See this topic.  Some people still have trouble accessing the alternate site.
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