Garrulous Glaahk Ociporus Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Since all the talk about Spiderweb games maybe being on Steam, do you think Jeff would put them on the Apple App Store? Sounds like a great idea to me. Personally, I intend to keep buying them directly from SpiderWeb so they get all the money. But probably a lot of people don't know about them and there could be some advantage to getting them "out there" on the App Store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Originally Posted By: Ociporus Personally, I intend to keep buying them directly from SpiderWeb so they get all the money. Same here, though for me the main reason is that buying direct is easier, and I don't know if anyone other than Spiderweb sells the games on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The App store probably wouldn't sell them on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Didn't think so. Then again, I wouldn't have known to begin with, since the only place I've ever seriously looked for Spiderweb games is the Spiderweb site itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Apple takes 30% on sales so SpidWeb would need to sell alot more to cover that loss and even more if can't sell games at full price.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Ociporus Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Steam takes a cut, too. But that's apparently a possible outlet for Avadon. Originally Posted By: Earth Empires Apple takes 30% on sales so SpidWeb would need to sell alot more to cover that loss and even more if can't sell games at full price.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I suspect Steam takes a considerably smaller cut, though no-one knows exactly how much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slarti Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I thought I heard somewhere that Steam's cut was about 30%. Is even the ballpark not known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Right here, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 steam ain't telling what's their share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I had the impression (forget from where) that the ballpark for Steam was about 20%. I also seem to remember hearing that it may be negotiated on a per-dev basis though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 F1 2010 costs at steam 44,90 while lowest price at here is around 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd ParsnipBake Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 i've been an avid iDevice fan for a while now, and having played the RPG offerings on the app store so far, I'm quite frankly disappointed. I would be sooooo happy to see Spiderweb Games reach the Mac App store! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Originally Posted By: Earth Empires F1 2010 costs at steam 44,90 while lowest price at here is around 25. What does this mean, and in particular what are your units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 44,90 euros and 25 euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If you need further help understanding, in some places in world they switch the decimal and comma in numbers, so what was $1,234.56 would become $1.234,56 (This is in place of a period so it doesn't throw you off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 That's great, now all I'm wondering is what F1 2010 is! And... €25 to €44.90? That's nearly half the price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It's a racing game (F1=Formula 1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 *kicks Celtic* You don't watch racing sports at all? Call of Duty Black Ops 60 euros at Steam and 37-64 euros at local shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 You can't really chastise people for failing to recognize acronyms without context. F1 means the key next to Escape to me, unless I have some reason to think otherwise. (Although I did have the suspicion that it probably isn't yet possible to buy replacement keyboard keys through Steam.) Acronyms: Because the world need more name collisions. (Possibly my favorite acronym collision to-date: I once came across a German Macintosh developer asking what the 'NS' prefix on most Cocoa names meant. This was a natural thing to wonder about, since although in Apple's history, this abbreviation means 'NeXTSTEP', in German history it usually means 'Nationalsozialismus'.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Farewell to Nova Scotia, the sea-bound coast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 F1 is also an abbreviation for Formula 1 Motorsport. I wonder, without context, which more people would identify F1 as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Originally Posted By: Niemand (Possibly my favorite acronym collision to-date: I once came across a German Macintosh developer asking what the 'NS' prefix on most Cocoa names meant. This was a natural thing to wonder about, since although in Apple's history, this abbreviation means 'NeXTSTEP', in German history it usually means 'Nationalsozialismus'.) perhaps if he were not stupid, but a smarty, he would have been able to work it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Originally Posted By: Lilith perhaps if he were not stupid, but a smarty, he would have been able to work it out Please remove yourself from the internet. —Alorael, who does not think that working it out would be his first activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Originally Posted By: Lilith Originally Posted By: Niemand (Possibly my favorite acronym collision to-date: I once came across a German Macintosh developer asking what the 'NS' prefix on most Cocoa names meant. This was a natural thing to wonder about, since although in Apple's history, this abbreviation means 'NeXTSTEP', in German history it usually means 'Nationalsozialismus'.) perhaps if he were not stupid, but a smarty, he would have been able to work it out Nice Mel Brooks reference there. Like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Tracer Bullet Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 PIN = Personal Identification Number. So what's with all the "PIN Number" I see everywhere? Personal Identification Number Number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Yes. You'll need to enter it at the ATM Machine in order to buy an Automated Teller Machine. If you do that, I'd recommend that you buy one of the pricier models with an LCD Display, rather than one of the older ones with a CRT Tube. (It is much safer to use a screen which only shows pictures of other screens than one which functions by launching televisions.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Perhaps you should speak with the Department of Redundant Acronyms Department —Alorael, who suspects that some people may have done so already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Originally Posted By: Codes, disguises, and explosions Perhaps you should speak with the Department of Redundant Acronyms Department That was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Originally Posted By: Niemand (Although I did have the suspicion that it probably isn't yet possible to buy replacement keyboard keys through Steam.) This made me laugh. Originally Posted By: Niemand (It is much safer to use a screen which only shows pictures of other screens than one which functions by launching televisions.) This is also funny, even though I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 An LCD display displays LCDs, of course. While a cathode ray tube launches electrons at a screen, a CRT tube obviously launches cathode ray tubes. —Alorael, who explained the joke. Now it's only half as funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slarti Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 The internet is a series of diminishing returns tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It seems that Spiderweb has come down with a severe case of RAS syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Tracer Bullet Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 DFA Department. Oy. I just noticed that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 My personal favourite is from CSI, though of course the redundant acronym is but one of the many things wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Tracer Bullet Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 As if ATM Machine weren't enough, I just saw an Automatic ATM Machine. Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan My personal favourite is from CSI, though of course the redundant acronym is but one of the many things wrong with it. Technically, that's CSI: NY, not CSI. (Okay, yes, Dikiyoba is being pedantic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Tracer Bullet Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Pedantic, not facetious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Txgangsta Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I have learned through a very reliable (and anonymous) source the cut steam takes is almost exactly what Apple charges. Close to 30%. Edit: I have learned from a different source (equally reliable) (equally anonymous) that its completely worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Back to the original question. Originally Posted By: Jeff Vogel It will take some work to adapt it (since I'll need to port it to Cocoa), but I plan to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Warchief Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Wait, are you saying that Jeff's games are still written using the Carbon APIs on mac? If so he may need to update to Cocoa for 10.7 "Lion" anyway... I really wouldn't be surprised if Apple removed support from the next OS release. Also, since the mac app store doesn't accept apps using deprecated APIs he would need to rewrite for Cocoa to get on there (i assume that's what randomizer's quote is referencing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Jeff only started Carbonizing his code a few years ago after Avernum 4 was released so some of the games would run natively on Intel based Macs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Txgangsta Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 All Jeff's games run on my computer (intel mac) just fine. The only one I haven't played in the original exiles and nethergate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Concerning the original topic of spiderweb products being offered on the app store: Spiderweb games are being offered on apple's download recommendation site for quite some time already. I'd say that's quite adequate, wouldn't you. I can't get, why someone should want to play a real RPG as an app on the iphone. Even though the spiderweb graphics are still very simple. I think better wait till apple is able to provide a smart phone or pad with virtual vision, so that we can see the game really really big. Although thinking about being in a virtual version of Avernum makes me a bit queasy right away. It'll feel a bit bumpy too… If you wanna know about the apple recommendations, here you can find one. It's marked as a staff pick' too… http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/role_strategy/avernum5.html Also as an afterthought: Originally Posted By: The Mystic Originally Posted By: Ociporus Personally, I intend to keep buying them directly from SpiderWeb so they get all the money. Same here, though for me the main reason is that buying direct is easier, and I don't know if anyone other than Spiderweb sells the games on CD. I really think one should see to giving Spiderweb all the money directly. They deserve all the credits for their work on developping really good fun-games, – for having stayed 'indie'. They provide games of a slightly different making, which I'd really like them to keep on doing. Therefore the support for their efforts should go to them as straightly as possible. Certainly it's fine, if other people find out about this wonderful little gameforge as well, so they can contribute to further success of spiderweb in spiderweb-style by buying the games directly of spiderweb and talking about the fun they had playing the games… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Tracer Bullet Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I agree. Spiderweb is awesome because Jeff has managed to maintain true traditional style without falling too short of today's standards of lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Soul of Wit Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Tcheedchee Concerning the original topic of spiderweb products being offered on the app store: Spiderweb games are being offered on apple's download recommendation site for quite some time already. I'd say that's quite adequate, wouldn't you. I can't get, why someone should want to play a real RPG as an app on the iphone. ... You may have confused the iTunes App Store with the new Mac App Store. This thread (was originally) about distribution and not about porting Spiderweb games to new hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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